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    This guy makes me laugh.

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    BJ stands a better chance of pulling off an acceptable brexit than the previous incumbent.

    He follows in the footsteps of a long line of PMs who trod the Eton & Oxbridge route into politics and is a good orator.
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    You two should be poster boys for divided Britain. I find flat out arguing about politics about on the same level as plebs that whack each other about at Football matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Hell View Post
    No, the world needs jumped up, yet pitiful little men like you. Your pompous, yet curiously f*ckwitted comments make me smile with incredulity.
    When you resort to personal insults, you've lost the argument.

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    So far everything he's said and pledged has made sense to me. I'm sure its the honeymoon period, if he goes and does something sensible like cancel HS2, he'll win a lot of friends.

    If he carries on a similar path and manages not to fcuk up he'll walk the next election.
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    I'm not wholly sure I've ever seen him finish a sentence

    Soundbites. And small ones, as a result of my first sentence
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    I think he deserves a chance for all his buffoonery. Whole thing reminds me of Football fans , right now its " why did we sign this guy?" " he'll never fit in at this club" Give him a chance to have a go and if he scores a few they'll all be chanting his bloody name in a few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Hell View Post
    No, the world needs jumped up, yet pitiful little men like you. Your pompous, yet curiously f*ckwitted comments make me smile with incredulity.
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    When you resort to personal insults, you've lost the argument.
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    I've been saying this for ages: I have no f*cking idea what you're blithering on about.
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    I've been saying this for ages: I have no f*cking idea what you're blithering on about.
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    Interesting reception in Scotland and Wales, eh?

    Another couple of days in and he's been talking relatively clearly and concisely, but reading between the lines is still important. So, liking how he's speaking about some things, but what is being said is almost impossible to deliver.

    I dislike the "War Cabinet" term immensely. As Sky News just said in the last half hour, Boris ISN'T Churchill, and Brexit ISN'T WWII. We really must drop these analogies while retaining great pride in the achievements of our country 80 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by findlay View Post
    Interesting reception in Scotland and Wales, eh?

    Another couple of days in and he's been talking relatively clearly and concisely, but reading between the lines is still important. So, liking how he's speaking about some things, but what is being said is almost impossible to deliver.

    I dislike the "War Cabinet" term immensely. As Sky News just said in the last half hour, Boris ISN'T Churchill, and Brexit ISN'T WWII. We really must drop these analogies while retaining great pride in the achievements of our country 80 years ago.
    Yes of course but WW2 (can we still mention this ?) brought the country together & that’s probably the most important task Boris has.

    I’m a bit fed up with the Snp’s position of remain. If they want to represent the vote in Scotland then they should vote 62% against & 38% for as that was the representative vote.
    However my last email to them was complaining about Alex Salmond’s treatment & I think I ended it with ‘doesn’t matter whose got whose hand in whose pants’.
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    Slightly more philosophical track...

    Findlay mentions WW2 ‘achievements’ in defending ourselves against Germany

    How far back through history do you go before you think “we” (ie people living in Britain) failed to defend ourselves and thus are actually the ancestors of tyranny?

    If Rome had conquered all of the UK and held it, what would we be then? Celebrating that, as Romans, we fought off the attack... or going back a few more hundred years and realising we were the scumbags that conquered whoever was there previously

    I do find it interesting that “we” seems to mean the people that fought off the tyranny of the Nazi regime... yet “we” were once the tyrants

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit View Post
    Slightly more philosophical track...

    Findlay mentions WW2 ‘achievements’ in defending ourselves against Germany

    How far back through history do you go before you think “we” (ie people living in Britain) failed to defend ourselves and thus are actually the ancestors of tyranny?

    If Rome had conquered all of the UK and held it, what would we be then? Celebrating that, as Romans, we fought off the attack... or going back a few more hundred years and realising we were the scumbags that conquered whoever was there previously

    I do find it interesting that “we” seems to mean the people that fought off the tyranny of the Nazi regime... yet “we” were once the tyrants
    It’s living memory imo. Wars with Germany are still relevant as it’s still live (like the old chap I played golf with who remembers the Clydebank blitz) whereas what happened before 1900 is to me at least not interesting.

    In football terms I can’t remember ‘66 but at every opportunity (it seems) England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 mention it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit View Post
    How far back through history do you go before you think “we” (ie people living in Britain) failed to defend ourselves and thus are actually the ancestors of tyranny?

    Hmmmm. I was going to say relevance, but that's entirely the wrong word. I think education (or lack of) is probably more important. We all remember seconday school history, and mostly we'll remember WWI and WWII lessons. Recent history, a captivating story for young imaginations. As for the commonwealth (and how it was won), medieval battles, Romans, Picts, Norse Wars, Armadas, 1066 (that Bastard was FRENCH!) etc etc etc.



    I'm all for trying to be positive in the face of adversity, boosting the National morale, but the language is so heavily geared towards feeding the frenzied Brexiteers (and you can take your own meaning and interpretation of that) and it's all wrong IMHO. War Cabinet? Really? *sigh*
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    In WW2, we had little choice but to come together in the face of an external threat that was totally out of our control. This particular threat is entirely in our control and we can choose to turn it up, turn it down or turn it off; uniting the nation here is a wholly different proposition.

    As the war closed, we also saw somewhat of a socialist revolution in this country resulting in the near immediate expulsion of Churchill and 10 years of Labour controlled government. Boris needs to be careful what he wishes for...

    I see quite a lot of Hitler in Boris to be honest. A fanatical focus on what he wants, what his cronies want, but not necessarily what is best for the nation he leads. An inability to listen to experts and advisors, providing reliable information that is discarded at significant human cost. A deep desire to be the nation’s hero, whilst making himself the villain.

    Oh well, at least we are a democracy, we have a parliament that needs to believe that what is being proposed is better than what came before in order for it to have any chance of passing and someone can rant and shout and wave their arms, but like Trump’s America it takes way more than that to implement controversial policy. It actually needs to be a good idea in the eyes of the majority of elected officials, not the few.
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    Oh and his rhetoric is doing absolute wonders for the exchange rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by findlay View Post
    Interesting reception in Scotland and Wales, eh?

    Another couple of days in and he's been talking relatively clearly and concisely, but reading between the lines is still important. So, liking how he's speaking about some things, but what is being said is almost impossible to deliver.

    I dislike the "War Cabinet" term immensely. As Sky News just said in the last half hour, Boris ISN'T Churchill, and Brexit ISN'T WWII. We really must drop these analogies while retaining great pride in the achievements of our country 80 years ago.
    Fair point , when will you savages stop getting all misty eyed about Bannock Burn?
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    I see quite a lot of Hitler in Boris to be honest. A fanatical focus on what he wants, what his cronies want, but not necessarily what is best for the nation he leads. An inability to listen to experts and advisors, providing reliable information that is discarded at significant human cost. A deep desire to be the nation’s hero, whilst making himself the villain.
    Oh man. WW2 historians everywhere are crying

    Please go and read Hubris and Nemesis by kershaw, and understand who Hitler was and how he operated

    When you know about Hitler, then we can work on Boris

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    Oh and his rhetoric is doing absolute wonders for the exchange rate.
    It really isn’t that simple

    Nor is it, necessarily, a bad thing - but depends on who you are

    If it tanks enough, we can re-open the mines...

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    Just take more of that oil off the Scottish, we'll be fine.
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    I see quite a lot of Hitler in Trump to be honest. A fanatical focus on what he wants, what his cronies want, but not necessarily what is best for the nation he leads. An inability to listen to experts and advisors, providing reliable information that is discarded at significant human cost. A deep desire to be the nation’s hero, whilst making himself the villain.
    I read this as Trump!
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    ^^ yeah, we need to do that before they vote for their independence . . . drain the north sea before they do that. Oh wait - they can't even hold a referendum unless they get the OK from down south, so no worries there then
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    While hugely appreciating what the forces did in the war(s) this situation has zero relevance with how we sort Brexit and do trade deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit View Post
    Oh man. WW2 historians everywhere are crying

    Please go and read Hubris and Nemesis by kershaw, and understand who Hitler was and how he operated

    When you know about Hitler, then we can work on Boris
    I’ve read 1,000s of pages of WW2 history over the last 2 years, proper authoritative works on the topic. Somewhat of an amateur enthusiast on the topic.

    So maybe I clarify my statement.

    Hitler didn’t want to see what was there to be seen. Or hear what was being said by the experts, or the better informed around him. His agenda was the only one, saw fit to blame everyone else for the mess that was in his hands and continued the path that he wanted to continue regardless of whether it was to the benefit of his nation.

    Yep, there is plenty of that in our chief Brexitier and PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd View Post
    I read this as Trump!
    Just as easily translated to him.

    Our worst, least successful - or at least ineffective leaders - are the ones who simply detach themselves from reality. Who hear something that they don’t like, even from their own trusted advisors or appointees, and just shut them up and banish them.

    Fortunately conventional western democracy always recognised the potential for a reckless leader to take control and implemented measures to contain them. Only the tyrants threaten to rip up democracy and force through their unpopular - even amongst their supporters - policy.

    Hang on, didn’t Boris threaten to suspend parliament to get what he wants... I wonder how many good leaders in history did that and compared to the truly despicable? Hmmm.
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    Boris appears to say and do whatever he needs to say and do to achieve the objective...

    I’m not a fan of Boris, but that’s what people hoped Trump would be - ie change tune once in office. He didn’t. Hopefully the swing voters will swing back over there

    Nobody knows what Boris really wants, but currently he is lining up to do what May would never have really done, and that is to ignore the rules of the game and try and set the agenda himself

    If the EU concede points on a deal, he wins. If the EU don’t concede, he wins.

    Hitler didn’t have a plan and didn’t do details, just set the direction of travel. I don’t know whether Boris has a plan but Hitler was consistent in his message in the same way Farage has been, but I don’t think any of them have Nazi views. I don’t really see the similarities being strong enough to say there’s a link. We are in a very different world now. Any uprising could be tenuously linked to how it was in the 1930s as it’s always the same - a down trodden minority calling for change. It’s lazy to say it’s the same... Hitler wasn’t like Boris and wasn’t like Farage

    If Boris has a plan, he’s executing it well from his personal standpoint... as he is PM after all

    The EU has changed in make up. I’m not sure if it’s changed sufficiently to alter the deal and everyone accepts a few more compromises, but I’m sceptical that no deal can be an outcome than anyone wants and Boris has got there first by being loud about the conviction with which he will head to a no deal option

    I guess it’s a case of who blinks first. All reason has seemingly gone out the window.

    But I feel like “we” are in a stronger position with Boris than May when it comes to the chances of getting a better deal. Who knows... I certainly don’t

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    Good post Hobbit.
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    It's needs someone vaguely trustworthy at the helm. Yes they all lie but this guy. This guy. Something else.

    I wouldn't trust him to do anything other than for his own gain. He wins all round, as he's got nothing to lose. We aren't his people, he's his own man. Go and run a business. Don't f@ck us up on a whim. Thanks in advance.
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    One of the biggest changes over the last few years seems to be the way that politicians make statements of facts that are verifiably untrue, and don't care

    I'm not talking about predictions about the future, that can't be verified at the time, politicians have always made claims about how policies will affect the future, with varying success (where I'm defining success as measure of their ability to predict rather than convince)

    Boris didn't care about the smoked kipper, that what he said was a lie, it was just said in order to make a joke about UKIPers, and not even a funny one

    Don't forget, these bogus claims about EU preventing the UK from thriving have formed the entire basis of BoJo's career for decades

    Trump lies just to control the topic of political conversation, just as Boris did when he lied about model buses to change the way search engines report on 'Boris Bus'

    The Russians have been used to their leaders routinely lying to them, the idea that there's no News in Izvestia and no Truth in Pravda was a running joke

    We're going to have to get used to the same here, because the Public Broadcasters have given up on fact checking, and newspapers are either being coopeted to promote a populist agenda, or simply have their own proprietors interests at heart

    I have heard some people joke that Angus Deaton and his coke habit are responsible for unleashing Boris on us, but I it's predominantly Conrad Black's fault

    Not forgetting Paul Dacre who worked tirelessly for twenty six years to create a national mood that would allow Boris to rise to become World King (near enough)

    It's ironic to see Dacre now use the Spectator to critique the monster that he has helped create

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/07/...s-johnson-cry/

    He's not the only one, Max Hastings and Conrad Black have also taken turns pointing out BoJo's failings
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKKid35 View Post
    We're going to have to get used to the same here, because the Public Broadcasters have given up on fact checking, and newspapers are either being coopeted to promote a populist agenda, or simply have their own proprietors interests at heart
    If only we had an effective parliamentary opposition on the key subject of the times, who would press on the lies and the deceit, to expose them.

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    I guess it’s a case of who blinks first. All reason has seemingly gone out the window.

    But I feel like “we” are in a stronger position with Boris than May when it comes to the chances of getting a better deal. Who knows... I certainly don’t

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    Well done to the people of Brecon and Radnorshire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by findlay View Post
    Well done to the people of Brecon and Radnorshire.
    Quite.

    When is the next by-election?

    Also, I wonder how many Tory MPs are threatening defection?

    *

    I’m literally crying at the amount of money being pissed up the wall on no deal planning. May tried that bluff, no one bought it. Parliament aren’t even close to supporting it. They won’t let Boris get away with not letting parliament vote on it. So why are we back on this stupidly expensive dumb-ass rhetoric?

    Boris and his cronies are on a different ****ing planet.
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    So why are we back on this stupidly expensive dumb-ass rhetoric?
    Because it's all we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsaunders View Post
    Also, I wonder how many Tory MPs are threatening defection?

    Somehow, locally, we have 2 Tory MPs who are bot so far up Boris' arse that they go to the commons wearing miners' helmets and head torches. No chance of them defecting (or getting re-elected )
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit View Post
    Because it's all we have.
    Change the ‘we’ to ‘they’ and I’d agree. The ‘they’ being the pro-Brexit establishment. This is all that they have got left.

    There are plenty of options left, it is just that Boris and his cronies are choosing to ignore them.
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    Change the ‘we’ to ‘they’ and I’d agree. The ‘they’ being the pro-Brexit establishment. This is all that they have got left.

    There are plenty of options left, it is just that Boris and his cronies are choosing to ignore them.
    Presumably you understand why? Else Boris wouldn't be PM if he had talked about anything other than what he did talk about

    It is what it is, and can't be any other way right now.

    Article 50 won't be revoked. Another peoples vote won't happen. A Parliament vote won't happen unless the deal changes. General election might happen following that...

    It's understandable as to why we are where we are, because politically we can't be anywhere else.

    The only other option was for the Lib Dems to have stood and campaigned as the 'remain' party in the EU elections and "been better" at consolidating the votes. They didn't, and i don't think they have the organisation or funds to generate more support. Remain parties did make up more of the vote, so that could have been more meaningful.

    Unless a new party emerges to stand for revoking article 50, we have no option other than the path we are on, and we've all seen how difficult it is to just start a new party.

    On the path we're on, step one is make a lot of noise and hope that a madman approach together with the change of the make-up of the EU parliament can alter the existing deal in some way

    Now we wait... will the EU blink...

    I don't understand why they would blink. Presumably anything "better" for us is going to be "worse" for the EU, so it's a case of :

    - in a no-deal scenario, who stands more to lose. The UK or the EU

    If the UK, then why would the EU blink at all. It only works if the answer is the EU...

    - and if the EU stands more to lose, they can alter the deal to benefit the UK (presumably to detriment of EU) up to the point at which it's not worse than a no-deal scenario

    But it's not like we're just arguing over a single number. There's a lot of numbers and a lot of guess work. It's also not just numbers - the EU is ideological, and "better together" isn't always tangible

    Unfortunately I don't think anyone really knows what any outcomes look like, so it's literally just pissing in the wind.

    Aside from the BoE, I'm not seeing evidence of anyone independent in the UK is being geared up to be modelling the potential outcomes in a sensible or realistic manner

    We've had years now to get some kind of peer-reviewed, thorough evidence on the subject. If it's out there, I can't find it


    BUT, it could be worse. We could have Ebola, be getting bombed to shit, or be living with malaria, so all things considered we're still lottery winners in life compared to the vast majority of the global population.

    I'm pretty sure the Brazilians in favelas would love their main issues to be brexit related right about now

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsaunders View Post
    There are plenty of options left, it is just that Boris and his cronies are choosing to ignore them.


    Obviously the Leaver Logic this morning is this is actually a win for Leave as if you add together the Brexit Company and Tory party votes, they had a majority.

    Also, it was just 'luck' that the LD candidate won, because the parties won't collaborate in a general election.



    'You lost, get over it', I believe is the well-trodden Leaver terminology in this situation.

    This might well have been the news item that swung it for this rural constituency

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49186065
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    I have (2) tractors & once lived on a farm but I’m not a farmer.
    However I know that you cull lamb at typically 4months & lambs are born in March ish.
    So this years lamb threat is a non story as they’ll all be dealt with by the time we leave on 31/10/19 i’d guess. Next year then that’s something else to worry about but guess what happens to lambs that grow old ? They turn into sheep (which lamb & have wool) & sheep like to follow each other blindly - a bit like the Eu

    Again I suppose it’s a bit of thinking for yourself rather than being told what to think-a bit like the last few days references to ww2 & Jerry.

    I’m off to the golf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit View Post
    Presumably you understand why? Else Boris wouldn't be PM if he had talked about anything other than what he did talk about

    It is what it is, and can't be any other way right now.

    Article 50 won't be revoked. Another peoples vote won't happen. A Parliament vote won't happen unless the deal changes. General election might happen following that...

    It's understandable as to why we are where we are, because politically we can't be anywhere else.

    The only other option was for the Lib Dems to have stood and campaigned as the 'remain' party in the EU elections and "been better" at consolidating the votes. They didn't, and i don't think they have the organisation or funds to generate more support. Remain parties did make up more of the vote, so that could have been more meaningful.

    Unless a new party emerges to stand for revoking article 50, we have no option other than the path we are on, and we've all seen how difficult it is to just start a new party.

    On the path we're on, step one is make a lot of noise and hope that a madman approach together with the change of the make-up of the EU parliament can alter the existing deal in some way

    Now we wait... will the EU blink...

    I don't understand why they would blink. Presumably anything "better" for us is going to be "worse" for the EU, so it's a case of :

    - in a no-deal scenario, who stands more to lose. The UK or the EU

    If the UK, then why would the EU blink at all. It only works if the answer is the EU...

    - and if the EU stands more to lose, they can alter the deal to benefit the UK (presumably to detriment of EU) up to the point at which it's not worse than a no-deal scenario

    But it's not like we're just arguing over a single number. There's a lot of numbers and a lot of guess work. It's also not just numbers - the EU is ideological, and "better together" isn't always tangible

    Unfortunately I don't think anyone really knows what any outcomes look like, so it's literally just pissing in the wind.

    Aside from the BoE, I'm not seeing evidence of anyone independent in the UK is being geared up to be modelling the potential outcomes in a sensible or realistic manner

    We've had years now to get some kind of peer-reviewed, thorough evidence on the subject. If it's out there, I can't find it


    BUT, it could be worse. We could have Ebola, be getting bombed to shit, or be living with malaria, so all things considered we're still lottery winners in life compared to the vast majority of the global population.

    I'm pretty sure the Brazilians in favelas would love their main issues to be brexit related right about now
    Agree that Boris has no choice but to pursue this angle. He got in on a pro-Brexit, no-deal Brexit it if it needs it, mandate. He has to pursue that avenue to have any credibility.

    There will be a parliamentary vote ahead of a no-deal exit, of that I’m sure. I’m also sure that Boris won’t win that vote, no-deal being rejected as an option by parliament once more. I’ve not seen a single speculator believe that this won’t go to a vote and that subsequently no-deal will be shut down as an option by a considerable margin.

    Boris may yet do something extraordinary. And get away with it. I’d bet against that though.

    So we’re basically wasting time, effort and money pursuing a fantasy so that Boris can pretend that he tried. ****ing billions. Again. We did this before. We saw how it ended. Only an absolute idiot does exactly the same thing twice and expects a different outcome.

    What. A. Joke.
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    Agree that Boris has no choice but to pursue this angle. He got in on a pro-Brexit, no-deal Brexit it if it needs it, mandate. He has to pursue that avenue to have any credibility.

    There will be a parliamentary vote ahead of a no-deal exit, of that I’m sure. I’m also sure that Boris won’t win that vote, no-deal being rejected as an option by parliament once more. I’ve not seen a single speculator believe that this won’t go to a vote and that subsequently no-deal will be shut down as an option by a considerable margin.

    Boris may yet do something extraordinary. And get away with it. I’d bet against that though.

    So we’re basically wasting time, effort and money pursuing a fantasy so that Boris can pretend that he tried. ****ing billions. Again. We did this before. We saw how it ended. Only an absolute idiot does exactly the same thing twice and expects a different outcome.

    What. A. Joke.
    If you could please explain to me how this is avoided and everything's fine with the world , that would be great. You're answer is not allowed to contain the words, revoke, referendum or second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeman View Post
    If you could please explain to me how this is avoided and everything's fine with the world , that would be great. You're answer is not allowed to contain the words, revoke, referendum or second.
    Does it also have to be based in reality?

    I don’t see any solutions that Boris’ government would like.

    He has until 5th May 2022 (the next scheduled GE) to find a solution that Westminster believes, by a majority of 1, actually makes this country better. Between now and then, he has to hold his government together. Were the house to call, and win, a vote of no confidence in the government (triggering a general election), he may have less time than that. If his majority slips any further, that becomes a real possibility.

    Ironically, the only Brexit things that he could actually get through parliament would probably cost him his job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeman View Post
    If you could please explain to me how this is avoided and everything's fine with the world , that would be great. You're answer is not allowed to contain the words, revoke, referendum or second.
    We extend past the current deadline, there's a general election, the remain favouring parties actually collaborate together as they have just proved they can, to consolidate the remain vote, win a collaborative majority and sort sh*t out.

    Do you want me to put that in a multi-coloured gif, in Comic Sans to make it easier to understand?
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    We extend past the current deadline, there's a general election, the remain favouring parties actually collaborate together as they have just proved they can, to consolidate the remain vote, win a collaborative majority and sort sh*t out.

    Do you want me to put that in a multi-coloured gif, in Comic Sans to make it easier to understand?

    And then they fail to get a U Turn through the house on account of 52% of the people being pissed off, yep, that'll work
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    And then they fail to get a U Turn through the house on account of 52% of the people being pissed off, yep, that'll work
    There will be a good number of angry people, that’s for sure.

    Just be glad that we live here, so they’ll mostly be writing on the Daily Mail website and not loading an assault rifle.
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    Anyeurisms in armchairs across the country.


    It's 37% of the country BTW (less those who've died in the last three and a bit years). HTHs.
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    If I was Alexander, I would consider not going up north any more.

    They don't seem to like him much. Who would have thought it - posh sounding southerner, from the Tory party disliked by northerners

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