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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Hell View Post
    (the dislike for Yetis has been stretched to 'Skodas' BTW)
    She should try one. I had to hire a Skoda Octavia to get the family to Gatwick (long story) and it was fantastic. Beautifully built, smooth, comfortable, lots of toys and surprisingly quick. Mind you, when I went to pick it up they gave me a special edition one with BMW 540i written on the back........ hope that helps
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    Spent a lovely quiet couple of hours at Car Giant in Willesden last night browsing.

    It was very quiet for some reason.

    Rummaged with an X1 which felt cheap and old.

    Also had a poke around a 120d xdrive which felt way nicer. Both were 14 plate but I think the X1 is E46 floorpan based. This presumably means lots of the systems are E46 too. This would explain why there was such a huge difference between how the two felt.

    Wife is nailed on to a 120d after my feedback which might this a very easy thing to complete.

    I know the 1er is supposed to be very cramped but I can 'sit behind myself' in one which is plenty good enough for us.

    So, what major foibles does the 120d Xdrive have then, folks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Hell View Post
    So, what major foibles does the 120d Xdrive have then, folks?
    No idea, but it is very ugly. HTH
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    That era X1 was still on the e90 platform. The current one is based off some derivative of the Mini platform, same as the 2 series active tourer.

    F20/21s build quality isn't quite as good as it should be for a BMW. Make sure all of the electrics/buttons work. Other than that they seem to be pretty reliable. No timing chain issues etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Mac View Post
    No idea, but it is very ugly. HTH
    Given my recent car history I can't believe you've even flagged this!

    Olly, any idea what's the centre diff/drive transfer system on the 1er?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Hell View Post
    Given my recent car history I can't believe you've even flagged this!

    Olly, any idea what's the centre diff/drive transfer system on the 1er?
    No, sorry. It's the same as the F3Xs but I don't know any more than it's a 20:80 split. I've driven an F31 320d X-Drive and it drove well. Even on stupid sized wheels with run flats, it coped with Cornish roads admirably (better than my current 5 on 18s/non-run flats). Martin advised it's because the X-drive uses a different set of springs and dampers, irrespective of M-Sport or not. Ground clearance isn't that great.
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    Some poking about online reveals the xdrive system to allegedly be 'a system of wet clutches and fast-acting servos'

    Sounds like Haldex without the trade-name.

    Not looking for ground clearance on this motor: I have the van/Land Rover clutter for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Hell View Post

    Sounds like Haldex without the trade-name.
    In the opposite way though; RWD bias and front wheel drive assistance.

    Current shape X1 is much nicer than the old jacked up estate X1, kind of like a scaled down X5 but bet they aren't that cheap yet, same goes for the current shape Tiguan, again a very big improvement over the old shape.

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    Newer things normally are nicer than older things, but thanks for the pointers there.

    Interestingly, that's not the case for our requirements with the 1er xdrive, as it's only available with an auto, which means we're a touch penned in with what is available, but that's cool.

    I'm curious - what is that much better about the new gen Tiguan vs the older one?
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    I thought the Haldexy ones were the FWD platform, 2AT etc?
    Takes a lot of skill to look this bad you know...

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    Details on 4WD systems seem to be incredibly hard to come by online!

    This says it's Haldex-type system, too:

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review...mw-120d-xdrive
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