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    Question CAT Driver Training - anyone interested?

    After chatting with Darren over the weekend I have decided to do some driver training with CAT

    After speaking with them today I have an option of joining one of the club days on April 14th.

    But if I can share a day then I'll (we) get more driver training from a more bespoke day.

    Before I book the club day is anyone interested in sharing a full day in the next couple of months?

    Cost is high at £675 per person using your own car but I'm looking at it being an investment in learning and getting the best out of the Elise.

    This is the detail of the day - linky
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    I had a brilliant day there and learnt loads, you'll love it.
    Takes a lot of skill to look this bad you know...

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    Will know more at the end of this week .. but , very possibly..
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    Yes, I'm interested.
    I was just looking at their website.

    When are you thinking?
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    Could be interest pending dates on my to do list. Just not sure Ill get much time to practise it this year

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    I took my son there. I had planned to do it myself. Interested.
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    Wow, okay more interest than I thought

    I'm looking in the next month or so so I can make the most of it before going to the Ring in April (CD day).

    They only offer 2 people max on the one day course but....

    If there is enough interest, six people, they may be able to offer us a club day where you get around 100 mins of individual driver tuition for ~£500 which is the option I've been offered on Saturday 14th April
    Unfortunately that's a part filled day with the MLR guys.
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    Spoken with CatDT this morning.

    There are a few options for people.

    They have a last minute cancellation on Thursday this week where they can run a one day or half day.

    Other dates for this are as follows:
    • Sunday 1st April (Easter Sunday)
    • Tuesday 10th April
    • Wednesday 18th April
    • Thursday 19th April

    Unfortunately I can't commit to a weekday in April for some work reasons, so will go ahead and join the group day on Saturday 14th April.

    If we can get 6 people together they can run a group day for Northloop but they won't have dates for this until May/June time onward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Roberts View Post
    I had a brilliant day there and learnt loads, you'll love it.
    Before or after you stuffed a clio into the gravel at Oulton?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd View Post
    I took my son there. I had planned to do it myself. Interested.
    There's only so much they can work with.
    Ermmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeman View Post
    Before or after you stuffed a clio into the gravel at Oulton?
    After :lol
    Takes a lot of skill to look this bad you know...

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    I've been on a couple of courses with Colin Hoad - I really like him and never fail to feel like I've improved each time.

    I'm back with him on the 26th on a one to one in the 996, I want to feel as confident in it as possible and it makes sense to me to use Millbrook's facilities and Colin's experience.

    Club days are well worth doing and are a great day out

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    Following the initial post I ended up booking onto a club day last Saturday.

    Had a great day and learnt stuff.

    What made the day even better was the weather, we had sun and warm temps ... first this year I think!


    Short Version:
    No hesitation in recommending this to anyone, whether you are a complete novice or an experienced driver.
    Excellent day!
    New skills developed.
    Better understanding of my cars dynamics.


    Longer version:
    I have completed many miles on various tracks including the Nurburgring, in a range of cars.
    Recently changed to the Lotus Elise S1 (vvc) and wanted to ensure I could make the most of the car.
    Spoke with Jo at CDT about my needs and availability and we came up with a plan to join one of the Club days. This gave me a full day with 5 others to cover various elements of training.

    The whole day was a fantastic experience from the moment I arrived until I drove out the gates at Millbrook.

    The team were friendly, knowledgeable and helpful in all aspects of the day.

    Activities included threshold braking, high speed handling, car control, trail braking, cornering, observation and a small fun test at the end.

    I came away with some new skills to develop further and found some limits of the car.... and some of my own comfort!
    At no point did I feel unsafe though.
    120mph in lane 5 of the two mile bowl was an experience!!

    Colin and Paul are great at providing clear explanations of what we were about to do and to identify habits (bad and good) that needed attention.
    For me, the full understanding of how the engineering/physics behind what was happening and how to correct things was invaluable! Obviously this is tailored to suit individuals.
    I would have no hesitation booking further training with them or recommending to others to go.
    You WILL learn things!

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    After speaking to you and Darren, I`m definitely looking at doing one of these in the future

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    The snow thwarted my session I had arranged, and again for a second date!

    Now Motofest is getting in the way of life so I'm currently trying to rebook for June/July

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    I'll be on one of these as soon as I can.
    I should get the car back next week, and will then need to fit seat rails for the passenger seat.

    Braking is one of the main things I need to work on, so it's great you highlighted they covered that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian H View Post
    Following the initial post I ended up booking onto a club day last Saturday.

    Had a great day and learnt stuff.
    Thanks Ian - it was lovely to meet you & we all enjoyed the day together. Weather was a bonus ... looks like we managed to make it stay for a while

    Pics are now up on the website from end of day awards & Grant has got himself on the Mile Straight Apron league table

    Lovely mix of cars. Stay safe at the 'Ring and look forward to seeing you again

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    Sounds really good and the website breaks it down rather well too. Think Iíll look to get on one of these as increasingly I feel itís difficult to ďexperimentĒ on track with car handling techniques as inevitably itíll go wrong and itís not always the safest environment

    Slight tangent - are there any facilities that rent out a large area, perhaps with cones etc available, that you can be left to do whatever you want in?

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    Thereís a huge patch of tarmac we were skidding on near the low grip circle.

    Best tuition I ever had, thatís for sure.
    Takes a lot of skill to look this bad you know...

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    Slight tangent - are there any facilities that rent out a large area, perhaps with cones etc available, that you can be left to do whatever you want in?
    Finmere, Bucks - They used to do skid days there although it's an unkind surface. Nick D and Al C used to run the days IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATDT View Post
    Thanks Ian - it was lovely to meet you & we all enjoyed the day together. Weather was a bonus ... looks like we managed to make it stay for a while
    Jo
    Jo, whilst we have you. Ian mentioned thinking you only allowed Road cars only. Are track cars allowed on these events ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nige View Post
    Jo, whilst we have you. Ian mentioned thinking you only allowed Road cars only. Are track cars allowed on these events ?
    As long as there is a passenger seat with a fully working seatbelt or harness, then in the main yes, all are ok. Caterhams we have to be careful with for example - they must be fully roll caged to use all the standard circuits.

    Let me know the car if you want me to check to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CATDT View Post
    As long as there is a passenger seat with a fully working seatbelt or harness, then in the main yes, all are ok. Caterhams we have to be careful with for example - they must be fully roll caged to use all the standard circuits.

    Let me know the car if you want me to check to be sure.

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    Ah, got you.

    MK2 Golf, good seats and harnesses but a pure track car, so not MOT`d, taxed or insured.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nige View Post
    Ah, got you.

    MK2 Golf, good seats and harnesses but a pure track car, so not MOT`d, taxed or insured.
    Very nice .... not a problem at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nige View Post
    Ah, got you.
    The cockpit of the Pinderwagen looks fantastic Nige!
    Loving those seats, the dash, the centre-console for the gear-lever, the list goes on...
    and that looks like a more-than-substantial roll-cage!!
    Top work*!

    * Sorry, I should probably have seen all this before now on your build-thread, but I'm not on here much these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CATDT View Post
    Very nice ....

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    Sorry Jo - for future reference, we don't use the word 'nice' in association with the Pinderwagen. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Langeveld View Post
    Sorry Jo - for future reference, we don't use the word 'nice' in association with the Pinderwagen. Ever.
    Oi!

    It's almost presentable now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Langeveld View Post
    Sorry Jo - for future reference, we don't use the word 'nice' in association with the Pinderwagen. Ever.
    "Not 'alf bad guv" ... is that better
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATDT View Post
    Thanks Ian - it was lovely to meet you & we all enjoyed the day together. Weather was a bonus ... looks like we managed to make it stay for a while

    Lovely mix of cars. Stay safe at the 'Ring and look forward to seeing you again

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    Good to meet you to
    Weather did help make the day!
    Looking forward to using the new skills.

    Definitely coming back for some training... maybe a Northloop day as discussed


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    "Not 'alf bad guv" ... is that better
    No, he'll only understand something like... That's gran'
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    Maybe arranging a NL club day later this year.

    I have a short list already from some recent discussions but let me know if you are interested as we need 6 places to make it work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian H View Post
    Maybe arranging a NL club day later this year.

    I have a short list already from some recent discussions but let me know if you are interested as we need 6 places to make it work
    Could be interested in this! Keep me informed please!

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    Would like to get involved in this
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    if the dates work, I'd like to be involved please

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    I am interested in this as well.
    Please let me know of proposed dates etc.
    NOT sent from my phone!

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    And me too please. I did the day with Mike and echo everyoneís comments. Keen to do more.
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    I have a provisional date reserved for Saturday 3rd August to do the club day.

    Will update on places available shortly.

    If interested and available can you pm me a current mobile number please
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