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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Langeveld View Post
    Maybe lots of people just want to back it/him?

    Listen to you all! Conspiracy theories from the get go!

    You need to step outside your echo chambers and listen to something else. Like you should have done in the run up to the referendum - maybe then the result wouldn’t have been such a shock to you.
    Who needs conspiracy theories when the Electoral Commission have previously busted the same people for breaking Electoral financing laws? Instead of aiming to be more accountable and transparent this time around, they've taken actions to conceal the sources of their funding.

    I think lots of people do want to support Monsieur Farage. However, I don't think they're the ones who have bunged him £750k of untraceable money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Mac View Post
    Who needs conspiracy theories when the Electoral Commission have previously busted the same people for breaking Electoral financing laws?
    Remain were also fined for exactly that.

    Everyone's at it. Not that it excuses Farage or anyone else, it just reflects how dirty both sides have been, and will probably continue to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobyte View Post
    Everyone's at it. Not that it excuses Farage or anyone else, it just reflects how dirty both sides have been, and will probably continue to be.
    All the more reason why a second public vote isn't wise. Some people are prepared to throw a lot of money around to try to sway the public vote in a direction which favours only them, and will lie and cheat to do so. Add to that outside interference from countries who benefit from the chaos, and it all adds up to a bad time.

    We really need our politicians to step up and take responsibility to agree on a way forward with the best interests of the country as a whole at heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Mac View Post
    We really need our politicians to step up and take responsibility to agree on a way forward with the best interests of the country as a whole at heart.

    We should encourage those that don't want to be politicians to be politicians, and forbid those that want to be politicians from being politicians. A bit like in Gladiator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobyte View Post

    We should encourage those that don't want to be politicians to be politicians, and forbid those that want to be politicians from being politicians. A bit like in Gladiator.
    Exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Mac View Post
    Have you seen Farage's new party fund-raising scam? He claims they've already raised over £750k in individual sub-£500 donations. The £500 bit is important, as above that more detailed records are required. All this money has arrived via Paypal, which anonymises the source of the cash. The authorities can demand the detail, but the Brexit Party's server is conveniently located outside of UK legal jurisdiction. So, it's entirely possible that one or two large organisations or individuals are throwing large numbers of £499 donations as part of a big money-laundering scheme. Perfect.

    I think it's outrageous to suggest that an honest and decent former city banker should be involved in any kind of rule bending....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Mac View Post
    All the more reason why a second public vote isn't wise. Some people are prepared to throw a lot of money around to try to sway the public vote in a direction which favours only them, and will lie and cheat to do so. Add to that outside interference from countries who benefit from the chaos, and it all adds up to a bad time.

    We really need our politicians to step up and take responsibility to agree on a way forward with the best interests of the country as a whole at heart.
    If people weren't so easily conned, it wouldn't be an issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by dex View Post
    I think it's outrageous to suggest that an honest and decent former city banker should be involved in any kind of rule bending....
    There are never any honest and decent people around when you need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobyte View Post
    Remain were also fined for exactly that.
    No, they weren't. The scale is hugely different.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44080096

    Trying to make out that 'they're all the same' when there is such a huge weight of evidence against the Leave campaign is one of the most worrying aspects of the whole thing.

    One was using huge sums of money from outside the country, to run massive social media campaigns, based on lies.

    The other lost a few receipts.

    Those two aren't the same.
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    I was saying its gone very quiet of late over Brexit
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    Having failed to compromise in any way in public for months, there's now failure to compromise going on behind closed doors, with Labour, too.


    There are probably record-setting quantities of red lines being pointlessly reinforced going on as we type, with record amounts of nothing to show out of the back of it.
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    Itís all going so well, isnít it . Twats, the lot of them.
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    I see our hapless PM has been informed of her departure

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48290760
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    Hmmm, interesting developments this morning... yet unsurprising.
    Uncertain and unstable times ahead for all concerned.

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    Ian Dunt described the lectern outside of No.10 as 'the lectern of infinite crisis'

    I think that's about right.

    Her speech had the tone of a petulant child not getting what it wanted in a toyshop.

    Whilst her departure was probably the only way out of the tragic Tory deadlock over this, the prospects for her replacement are properly terrifying, especially if they have The Fear on them over whatever the Brexit Party Ltd results are on Sunday.

    None of this is a good look.
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    So once we've wasted a bit more time with a Tory leadership contest I guess the only thing left is a General Election before we run out of ways for the Government to kick the can down the road and accept that they've committed to delivering the undeliverable...


    I'm waiting with interest to see which MP wants to sacrifice their career as the driver of the world's longest slow motion train crash.

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    My guess is a pro brexit PM, can kicked down the road, unworkable deal proposed (marry new girlfriend but shag the ex wife and her sister type deal) , EU gets pissed off and kicks us out by not extending
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    BoJo is the overwhelming favourite and has already said we will leave by 31 Oct even if it means No Deal.

    Didn't May say similar about 29 Mar?
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    Itís Theresaís choreographer I feel sorry for.
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    We have a brextremist MP.

    He likes to 'help out' behind the bar at the Kashmir stage at the Isle of Wight Festival. Kashmir runs independently within IW Festival and raises money for the local Quay Arts Centre.

    My mate Doug runs the Kashmir stage.

    Doug asked for a reel of B*llocks to Brexit stickers for the staff, for Kashmir. I helped out.

    I had forgotten that Sideshow Bob likes to help out at Kashmir. I don't think Doug had forgotten about that.

    https://iwradio.co.uk/2019/06/18/ord...kashmir-pints/

    He would have been surrounded by staff, uniformly wearing the stickers.

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