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    I wouldn't turn one down, but it is approaching a caricature of a fast 911. I'm sure it's very impressive in every other way.
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    Impressive bit of work!
    Colours look like vomit
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    One day a standard 964 carrera will be a very valuable thing, because most of them will have either been converted into RS replicas or Singers.
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    Prefer a standard Singer visually but one of these would be my daily driver if I won the Euro lottery :drool:
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    Nice,
    Is it wrong I like the inside better than the outside?
    500 bhp in under 1000kg will be FAST too

    Price will be out of my range though,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Mac View Post
    it is approaching a caricature of a fast 911.
    Renders gonna render.

    I'm more interested in wtf is supposed to be going on in the roof/rear-window interface;





    What are we looking at here?
    - A notched rear roofline and completely re-raked rear window?
    - An artificially-raised roofline mit bridge-spoiler?
    - A notched rear roofline and a notched Lexan rear window?
    It looks ace. And really expensive.
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    I like that very much
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    A great car, much of which i absolutely love. Some details look a bit too modern for my tastes with that era of 911 such as the rear exhaust and aero touches. That interior though - I love it. Such attention to detail.

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    The attention to detail is amazing - I like the way they have stored the track harnesses in the back.
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    Lovely, but $1.7m lovely?

    They are discussing it on PH & guys going hmm that looks expensive prob £300k or so, halfwits.
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    These new ones are apparently going to be built by Williams in Oxfordshire, rather than Singer in California, which should make the buying process a bit easier when I win the lottery.

    If my lottery numbers come up this week I'll buy this while I wait for them to build my new car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N/B View Post
    What are we looking at here?
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    - An artificially-raised roofline mit bridge-spoiler?
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    I'm going to go with answer B, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Mac View Post
    I'm going to go with answer B, please.
    If that's what it is, it looks like it would be absurdly complex to fabricate and I'm not sure they'd mess with the 964 silhouette to that extent.



    After sleeping on it, I think it's a notched roofline and a notched Lexan rear window, with a half-Lexan-half-carbon(?) bridge spoiler.

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    It's definitely the latter. The roofline in profile looks normal.
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    Good points. I suppose it's a blend of answers B and C. I'm sure they've massaged the profile ever so slightly in the Williams wind tunnel to optimize the aero effect without noticeably altering the appearance.

    "Fortunately, I'd taken a spare Gearbox, 5th gear cog (hidden), Turbo, Actuator, Banjo Connector, Steering Rack, Driveshafts, ECU, 57-51mm silicone reducing elbow and a Copper Banjo Washer." - Nige

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    I think I might ask Santa for one of these.

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    Being fussy I'd prefer,

    Smaller wheels with higher profile tyres and less flared arches.

    Colour..... Always a personal choice the green ain't for me.

    Other than that, totally awesome.

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    It can be safely assumed that every single one of their customers is fussy, and that you can have any colour you damn well please...
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    Looks amazing and very high quality. Think they've got that just right, think the wheel/tyre ratio looks good too, not too tall to be old school and not to rubber banded to be modern.

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    I think it is a bit "too much"

    I'd have it a little less wide, a little less body kitty, a little less in your face.

    I'd rather have an original Ruf CTR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    These new ones are apparently going to be built by Williams in Oxfordshire, rather than Singer in California, which should make the buying process a bit easier when I win the lottery.

    If my lottery numbers come up this week I'll buy this while I wait for them to build my new car.

    https://www.dkeng.co.uk/ferrari-sale...11_singer.html
    I couldn't live with that interior. Fook me, it hurts my eyes on a screen! I can't imagine it in the flesh. And leather in the engine bay? Mesh thing over the intake plenum - is that really the air filter? That really is Faberge egg territory.
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    I agree on the interior of that one, but that could easily be fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim View Post
    I'd rather have an original Ruf CTR.
    https://www.rmsothebys.com/en/auctio...ubsport/564645

    Bargain, compared to the Singer.
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    Is anyone ever going to that thing that cars are supposed to do......... ya know, drive it.

    Yes its nice, but its all a bit pointless. I mean you're not going to see the queen walk through tottenham with the crown jewels on her head now are you.
    And your not going to drive this anywhere exept where there is no other traffic to crash into it.

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    Would not be at all surprised to see one of these street-parked in Los Angeles (of a daytime). Or West London, for that matter. The rich are getting richer, and are probably more careless with their possessions than ever before.
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    Mint!

    And rather good

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    Is anyone ever going to that thing that cars are supposed to do......... ya know, drive it.

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    Some do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim View Post
    I think it is a bit "too much"

    I'd have it a little less wide, a little less body kitty, a little less in your face.

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    But, this is for people who can afford a Lambo. They want extreme, so they can shout how 'over the top' and expensive it is.
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    I think it looks ****ing magnificent.

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    Sulphur blue with tan, please
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    Quote Originally Posted by c_w View Post
    Looks amazing and very high quality. Think they've got that just right, think the wheel/tyre ratio looks good too, not too tall to be old school and not to rubber banded to be modern.
    Some incredible bore on Twitter mentioned that, by having "bespoke tyres" (presumably some Singer-specific width, profile etc) they had immediately ensured that the car was not a tourer.

    That's probably true but, if you own a Singer and pick up a puncture, you can probably pay for overnight shipping from the Michelin factory to anywhere in the surface of the planet.

    But it is rather lovely. Not in green for me, not with that colour of interior, but... WOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by findlay View Post
    That's probably true but, if you own a Singer and pick up a puncture, you can probably pay for overnight shipping from the Michelin factory to anywhere in the surface of the planet.
    I'm sure that most small town tyre shops won't stock any PS Cup or Pirelli Trofeo tyres that are used on the majority of supercars these days.

    If you're really worried about that sort of thing as an owner then you just need to be prepared...

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    Saw a 911 with it's spare tyres on the roof at Spa once.
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    It looks like shit.

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    Tried it with my M Coupe using a roofrack and it's a lot of hassle and lifting! Not to mention the 70-80kgs hanging off it to drive somewhere. Never did bother at a trackday in the end. Running semi slicks on the car is the easiest way!

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    Surely if you can afford a Singer, you'd have people at the track with your tyres, and other cars....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim View Post
    Surely if you can afford a Singer, you already own a track and tyres can be helicoptered to anywhere you damn well please...thumb:
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