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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Roberts View Post
    A friend of mine had Kirky seats in his track car, they were bizarrely comfy. Quite restrictive, so over the shoulder checks etc are very difficult... Although I see they do some like the intermediate road/race seat.
    OK - might be a bit too much for predominantly road use then......
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem View Post
    Elise seats would be a good shout. Maybe Nina could get them recovered in probax for you for christmas....

    http://lotusdriversclubonline.org.uk - someone just got some after a wanted add there.... ?
    It must be your birthday as you post was a) useful b) not sarcastic and c) not bacon related.........

    Thank you sir - I'll have a look later
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    You could always go with the kevlar option....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem View Post
    You could always go with the kevlar option....

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    1260 That's 40% more than I paid for the whole car
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    Those would look good and hold their value Tony! Elise seats gets my vote though.
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    Yeah and you can sell the existing seats to help reduce the cost.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    OK - might be a bit too much for predominantly road use then......
    They were the wrap-around type, so you could only really turn your head with a 4-point on. Quite difficult to get in and out of too.



    Where as I see they do ones like this, which probably are a bit more suitable?

    Takes a lot of skill to look this bad you know...

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    I imagine Elise Club Racer seats are silly money??

    Takes a lot of skill to look this bad you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Roberts View Post
    That could be more like it? The concern I have is that Elise seats don't appear to offer much side support??
    Seems a silly statement for something fitted to a Lotus but wouldn't the seat above offer better lateral support?

    Having said that however, I have offered someone a deal on a pair of leather Elise seats
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    Looks like it's going to be a 4.3 not a 4.0 .............

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    Got some wiring to do, then.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-Ninja View Post
    Got some wiring to do, then.....
    You'll be fine

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    The modifications have begun......



    Small step to start with but amazing how much difference in feel it has made

    I now need to sort the horn connection and fool the airbag sensor - any suggestions??
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    Tony is it a dished wheel? Doesn't look it, I can't h&t on an mx5 without a dished wheel & we are a similar height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    The modifications have begun......



    Small step to start with but amazing how much difference in feel it has made

    I now need to sort the horn connection and fool the airbag sensor - any suggestions??
    Horn on momentary switch in dash
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizard View Post
    Tony is it a dished wheel? Doesn't look it, I can't h&t on an mx5 without a dished wheel & we are a similar height.
    No it would be too close, but H&T is fine now I have room to move my legs under the wheel.
    Hopefully this will improve again when I get the Elise seats fitted?
    I do however have to leave the light stalk in the high beam position otherwise I scrape my knuckles
    This car is unlikely to be used much at night so it's not too much of an issue but I might buy a slightly dished wheel in due course if needs be??
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem View Post
    Horn on momentary switch in dash
    We can certainly do that if I can't wire up the centre button. Any ideas on getting the airbag light to go out - I presume it won't go through the MOT as it is?
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    So if the bulb 'failed' ...
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    I pulled the bulb out of my airbag light. Voila. Fixed.

    I too have a separate horn switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem View Post
    So if the bulb 'failed' ...
    Cunningly simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I presume it won't go through the MOT as it is?
    Technically still a fail as the airbag is missing, though the likely hood of getting an NT that would realise this and fail the car for it is small

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    Been through this recently with a very by-the-book MoT man.

    If the car range is supplied with an airbag by default and it is missing, it is a fail. The only work-around is to demonstrate that it is a competition car, which are allowed greater leeway than normal cars around things like airbags, ABS, brake servos, etc.

    There is little clear indication of exactly what constitutes a competition car, but the suggestion in the guidance is things like a cage, saftey cut outs, extinguishers, scrutineering stickers, etc. My car just scraped through with a cage and some scrutineering stickers (which came with the cage, not the car ). I also had to find and print out all the relevant guidance from official sources explaining why he was incorrect to fail my car first time out. Note the guidance makes a clear delineation between modified cars, track day cars (both of which should have airbags, if originally equipped) and competition cars which actually compete which earn the right to greater leeway.

    Of course, you can always refit an airbagged steering wheel (in which case the light should work also, as I understand it) or just find a friendly MoT man. The latter is probably easier - someone that deals with loads of track day cars is likely to offer greater leeway.

    At fault are some badly modified cars (probably Saxos, lol) that have proved dangerously modified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsaunders View Post
    Been through this recently with a very by-the-book MoT man.

    If the car range is supplied with an airbag by default and it is missing, it is a fail. The only work-around is to demonstrate that it is a competition car, which are allowed greater leeway than normal cars around things like airbags, ABS, brake servos, etc.

    There is little clear indication of exactly what constitutes a competition car, but the suggestion in the guidance is things like a cage, saftey cut outs, extinguishers, scrutineering stickers, etc. My car just scraped through with a cage and some scrutineering stickers (which came with the cage, not the car ). I also had to find and print out all the relevant guidance from official sources explaining why he was incorrect to fail my car first time out. Note the guidance makes a clear delineation between modified cars, track day cars (both of which should have airbags, if originally equipped) and competition cars which actually compete which earn the right to greater leeway.

    Of course, you can always refit an airbagged steering wheel (in which case the light should work also, as I understand it) or just find a friendly MoT man. The latter is probably easier - someone that deals with loads of track day cars is likely to offer greater leeway.

    At fault are some badly modified cars (probably Saxos, lol) that have proved dangerously modified.
    Thanks Simon - useful info

    If it has a half cage, Elise seats, harnesses, suspension and big brakes I might be able to wing it. It won't have the V8 by then, I'll re-MOT it just before delivering it to Nick.

    I will keep the OEM steering wheel just in case and if I have an issue with it I'll merely retro fit it for the day.
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    But then the airbag bulb won't work

    Best have a word with your MOT man now & ask how he views it. Might be easier in the long run if he is on side
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    But then the airbag bulb won't work

    Best have a word with your MOT man now & ask how he views it. Might be easier in the long run if he is on side
    Had already come to that conclusion - seeing him tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Best have a word with your MOT man now & ask how he views it. Might be easier in the long run if he is on side
    Had confirmation today - if it came with an airbag them it will need to have one for the MOT
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    Well that was quite a day........ day trip to Nottingham to collect this:



    2001 GS430 101k miles and just over 900

    Everything works and the engine is creamily smooth but the bodywork is hilariously fooked



    Last two are in low light but I'll take better ones tomorrow!!




    The important bit



    I cruised home at 85mph and it certainly 'strolls on' - can't wait until it's installed in something that weighs half as much
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    Nick has started to take the Lex-arse apart starting with the wiring loom........



    Bloody glad he's doing this not me

    The Mazda is booked in to have the P5 chassis rails, three braces, a TR Lane TD half cage and the Elise seats fitted. I'm going to have to remove the OMP steering wheel and refit the original to get it through the MOT though.......

    Just the brakes (Willwood 4pots), suspension (Either Meister R or P5 Sportdrive) and wheel/tyre combo to go. Not sure about tyres - Nick has 245 R rated rears to cope with the torque - mine will be more Clubsport spec so won't be so track oriented but I'm struggling to find anything suitable??

    Starting to get excited now....
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    Bloody glad he's doing this not me
    You know it's 90% guesswork, right..... :P

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    Nick has 245 R rated rears...
    .. and fronts :)

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    I'm struggling to find anything suitable??
    I assume you are running a 15" x 8? The Caterham Avon CR500s are the only 15" x 245 that I am aware of, anything else is going to be a 225.

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    Starting to get excited now....
    Me too :)

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    Looks like we have a runner!

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    I'm loving the throttle pedal on the butterfly in the first video

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-Ninja View Post
    You know it's 90% guesswork, right..... :P


    Yes - I'm working on the basis you managed not to feck up your car and you know what you're doing second time around.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-Ninja View Post
    I assume you are running a 15" x 8? The Caterham Avon CR500s are the only 15" x 245 that I am aware of, anything else is going to be a 225.
    I can get 15 x 9 rims if needs be? Certainly the Avons would do the trick but as this will be road and track I'd rather have something that will cope with a sudden downpour when I'm twenty miles from home
    Toyo R1-Rs or similar would do the trick but I've heard they're not going to sell them in the UK anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz711 View Post
    I'm loving the throttle pedal on the butterfly in the first video
    I'm going to need to be quite flexible to reach that.........
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    Looks like Avon are doing a 245 40 15 in the ZZS too. Anyone have any experience of, or heard anything about this tyre?

    http://www.avonmotorsport.com/road-l...erformance/zzs
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    Looks like Avon are doing a 245 40 15 in the ZZS too. Anyone have any experience of, or heard anything about this tyre?

    http://www.avonmotorsport.com/road-l...erformance/zzs
    Ooh, they're new. Might get more road life out of them, as the CR500s are very light and soft.

    You'll have to roll the arches to make them fit though (don't as me to do it, I'm a bit cack handed in that department)

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    I'm loving the throttle pedal on the butterfly in the first video
    FWB throttle. Still considering what to do with it.

    - fit sensor to mx5 pedal
    - fit complete pedal to mx5
    - fit sensor in engine bay and operate from mx5 cable (most likely)
    - remove FBW and fit cable operated throttle.

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    Identified the boggy rev problem. DBW is misbehaving and closing the butterfly at WOT. Will hit it with a bigger hammer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-Ninja View Post
    Identified the boggy rev problem. DBW is misbehaving and closing the butterfly at WOT. Will hit it with a bigger hammer.....
    That's nice - no idea what the acronyms mean but glad you found it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-Ninja View Post
    Ooh, they're new. Might get more road life out of them, as the CR500s are very light and soft.

    You'll have to roll the arches to make them fit though (don't ask me to do it, I'm a bit cack handed in that department)
    I have a man who can for this sort of thing
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    That's nice - no idea what the acronyms mean but glad you found it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-Ninja View Post
    Drive By Wire, Wide Open Throttle :)
    Ta good luck!
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    Sorry for being late with this, I've been busy with other things...

    I don't know about Lexarse, as I don't get involved with them, but on a lot of German drive-by-wire throttle systems the traction control ecu needs to handshake the engine ecu or it will operate in a safe mode, limiting throttle opening. You may have resolved the problem by now though :-)

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    Yeah, not hunted it down yet, but will log some data from the ECU and see what other factors are at play. Running open headers now, so likely to upset the neighbours..... :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Benz View Post
    I don't know about Lexarse, as I don't get involved with them, but on a lot of German drive-by-wire throttle systems the traction control ecu needs to handshake the engine ecu or it will operate in a safe mode, limiting throttle opening.
    This might be something Nick - remember the TC light was permanently on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-Ninja View Post
    Yeah, not hunted it down yet, but will log some data from the ECU and see what other factors are at play. Running open headers now, so likely to upset the neighbours..... :D
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    In other news, the car is booked in next week to have the P5 chassis rails, TR Lane TD rear roll bar, 3 x chassis cross braces and the Elise seats fitted

    May or may not fit the BBK/braided hoses, coilover suspension and wheels/tyres prior to the engine conversion depending on timings. Think I might leave the suspension until after so we know what the extra weight over the front does.......
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