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Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 10:54 AM
Friday

A 3.30am start had Gary and the Mondeo at Dover in plenty of time to catch the 6.25am crossing. The weather on route had been horrendous to say the least. An uneventful crossing and Gary was on his way to Nurburg as planned. The drive was reasonably quiet other than the awful weather which slowed things down in places.

On arriving at Nurburg Gary went straight to check the 205 out at Ollyís. Thankfully it was ready. The F1 circus had come to town
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0320.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0321.jpg

A phone call from Steve G revealed that he was around too so Gary nipped to the house to meet up with him and Jochen. Half hour and a pizza later Gaute, Anders and Johan arrived in their machines. A couple of very interesting M3ís
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0329.jpg


Steve had to go to Tomís to check on progress with his car so everyone went to have a look. This gave Gary chance to check out the other cars. With 640bhp the grey car looked like a serious supercharged machine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0337.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0346.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0352.jpg

Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 10:55 AM
Back at the house the guys decided to nip to the Pistenklause for a quick drink and to chill out. Gaute couldnít wait to have his picture taken next to a famous car

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0360.jpg

It appeared like karl had his picture on the wall too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0362.jpg
That done the guys collect the 205 and nipped to the Nordschleife where apparently Alonso and Hamilton were due to do a lap. Bored of waiting the guys went back to the house.

From there they nipped to Adenau to have a beer in the comfy corner with Karl

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0369.jpg
Then it was back to the PK to have a meal and see who else was in town.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0373.jpg
Jim looking rather fetching
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0375.jpg

The Clio was in town
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0378.jpg

Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 10:55 AM
Saturday

Although the alarm wasnít due to go off till 6pm Gary was up and about at 5.30. By 6am he was out cleaning the car ready for the photoshoot.

At 7.30 Gary / Steve and around 150 others were in the Car park getting a large bollocking from Graham (RMA). The purpose of the bollocking, who knows, apparently itís the way Graham does things. I guess when you have to deal with a lot of people who have more money than they know what to do with you have to get their attention somehow.

At 8am the track opened, but not as Gary had hoped. The straight from the car park to Chicane was being used as a coach park for the F1. Cars therefore had to drive this section at 15mph. Then it was through the old pits and a pedestrian crossing manned by an official. Once through there you got to the last checkpoint at T13 where you were let free. Gary was the second car on track and enjoyed a quiet lap, dropping Jochen off half way round. At the end of the lap he decided to go straight back out. Here he got his first telling off for not joining the line of people being told what to do. Having joined it once he didnít think it necessary to join it again. A pattern was emerging.

Having completed his second lap Gary was beginning to get an eye of the exotica on show. It ranged from his 205

To caterhams, many of which were on slicks
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0567.jpg

To Atoms
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0651.jpg

To modified 340Rís
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0409.jpg

Zackspeed V8 stars
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0412.jpg

The usual aria of Porsches including full race cup cars
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0383.jpg

One lucky guy had his choice of a couple of Ferraris.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0757.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0909.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0541.jpg

Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 10:55 AM
Plus loads of other lovelies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0491.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0433.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0437.jpg
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Gary met up with Jim C, Kenny and Phil and it was decided that the photography would start immediately. So they went to T13 and found a quiet spot on the track to get started.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0389.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0428.jpg

The stig had been drafted in to drive the Clio
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0523.jpg

Once this was complete Kenny wanted to get some action shots with the Clio and the 205 on track. He went to various points on the track and got the others to drive past in close formation for the pics. The rest of those laps were spent playing like mad men to see which of the cars had the upper hand. The 205 pulled a couple of yards in a couple of sections and the Clio got them back up Kesselchen. In all there was nothing to choose between the pair of them though.

Once these laps were complete Gary was free to lap as he wished. This gave plenty of time for big game hunting. Following, but not catching a fire spitting F40 was fun to say the least. The 205 started becoming a busy pax lap car, it appeared to be gaining a little respect in the car park.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/RR3_0792R.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/RR3_0793R.jpg

Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 10:55 AM
Gary spent some time taking pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0585.jpg
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Garyís last lap of the day saw a man waving wildly at Spegelcurve just before Miss hit miss. A Porsche had gone in heavy just round the corner. Gary got the flag out and did his stuff for the next 30 minutes. He was very disappointed with the actions of the other drivers. They slowed a little but not a lot. In an act of defiance Gary throw the flag at one offender as he passed.
When the track closed he drove past the incident. The GT3RS had gone in VERY heavily at the entrance to MHM come back across the track hit again and finished up half on and half off the track. The car was clearly a write off. Luckily no-one was badly hurt.

Gary / Steve /Andrew M and Gaute left the track and went to the Chinese to look at Vbox figures. It would transpire that Gauteís 7mins 11 seconds T13 on lap would have equated to a 7.45 BTG had the full circuit been in use. Frighteningly quick

Guate on track pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0920.jpg

The guys nipped to the PK to have a beer and meet up with Jochen. Here they decided to walk to the Grand Prix circuit to see what was going on. A big party was the answer. When the GP comes to the ring it comes in a big way.

Gary started to feel ill and needed to return to the house. Back at the house things got worse with Gary being sick from both ends. Not a good finish to the day.

Sunday

The alarm went off at 7am and Gary decided to stay in bed for a while longer. At 9.45am he awoke again and went to the track. He took one of Blow Dog (scoobynet) friends for a passenger lap before deciding he felt too ill to continue. He made the decision to run for home there and then. By 12.30 he was back in the Mondeo and on his way home. After P&O took £50 from him he got the 5.35pm ferry back to blighty. 9pm he was home and tucked up in bed.

An excellent weekend marred only by Garyís illness.

Floyd
23-07-2007, 10:56 AM
Some nice pictures there :thumb:

F

Duncan
23-07-2007, 11:04 AM
sounded like a ball apart from being Ill that is :D

jon_r
23-07-2007, 11:08 AM
Look forward to the article appearing in the magazine. Can someone post a heads-up when it appears on the shelves as no doubt ill miss it!

Weeman
23-07-2007, 11:09 AM
Ahhhh to win the lottery or own a carpet warehouse in Huddersfield :lol: :lol:

Loving Stevey G's car with the cage :affection: :affection:

TBR
23-07-2007, 11:13 AM
Holy Sh*t!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0757.jpg

288 GTO Evoluzione!!!! :blink:

Simon
23-07-2007, 11:13 AM
Bad news about you being ill mate, even worse as I read it while eating a ham sandwich :(

I did think it funny looking at the webcam to see loads of things parked up on DH :o ??

Nice pictures btw :thumb:

IanHowell
23-07-2007, 11:14 AM
Sounds like a great weekend Gary :thumb:

Why do you talk in the 3rd person tough :unsure:

Did Sabine drive it this weekend, thought she was going to have a go?

When is the PT article out?

Ian

IanHowell
23-07-2007, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Jul 23 2007, 11:54 AM
Steve had to go to Tomís to check on progress with his car so everyone went to have a look. This gave Gary chance to check out the other cars. With 640bhp the grey car looked like a serious supercharged machine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0337.jpg


Looking good Steve :o :thumb: :affection:

Ian

Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 12:27 PM
In answer to your question Ian, I have no idea, something we started doing at the beginning and it's just carried on.

Sabine was due to drive it Sunday afternoon but I had to leave early :(

IanHowell
23-07-2007, 12:42 PM
Fair enough ;)

Bit of a bugger about Sabine, another time maybe :(

Ian

bad_roo
23-07-2007, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Jul 23 2007, 10:54 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0337.jpg


That's a novel weight saving measure right there.

Gary - did you get a go in the Clio at all?

Weeman
23-07-2007, 12:56 PM
Any chance a magazine fancies running a comparison between the 318is and the new m3? I'd be willing to have a go in both, for the entertainment of the masses :lol:

Tony
23-07-2007, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by TBR@Jul 23 2007, 12:13 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0757.jpg

288 GTO Evoluzione!!!! :blink:
That's the 'missing link' between 288 GTO and F40 - it is UBER UBER valuable - like £5m............ good effort for using it how it was designed to be used :thumb: B)

Weeman
23-07-2007, 01:02 PM
Looks like it was designed by 1st year primary school kids :lol: and biult from scratch using play doh, stick a bricks and copydex

Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Tony@Jul 23 2007, 01:57 PM


288 GTO Evoluzione!!!! :blink:
That's the 'missing link' between 288 GTO and F40 - it is UBER UBER valuable - like £5m............ good effort for using it how it was designed to be used :thumb: B) [/quote]
I chased it for a while. Kept it well in site till AF then it left me ;)

Gary Kinghorn
23-07-2007, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by bad_roo@Jul 23 2007, 01:43 PM


Gary - did you get a go in the Clio at all?
To be honest I didnt even think to ask. I was too busy enjoying the 205 :thumb:

Das Chin
23-07-2007, 08:43 PM
i have seen that 288 EVO at a few gold track days and the guy always turns up with a load of ferraris on a trailer. totally minted and that evo is quick.

it was running 720 bhp back in those days at silverstone and I nearly got a ride in it. gutted.

they only made 4 of them!!

Tony
23-07-2007, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Das Chin@Jul 23 2007, 09:43 PM
it was running 720 bhp back in those days at silverstone and I nearly got a ride in it. gutted.
That really would have been something to brag to the grandchildren about B)

TBR
24-07-2007, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Das Chin@Jul 23 2007, 08:43 PM
i have seen that 288 EVO at a few gold track days and the guy always turns up with a load of ferraris on a trailer. totally minted and that evo is quick.

it was running 720 bhp back in those days at silverstone and I nearly got a ride in it. gutted.

they only made 4 of them!!
5 actually.

:D

Thorleif
24-07-2007, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by TBR+Jul 24 2007, 04:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TBR @ Jul 24 2007, 04:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Das Chin@Jul 23 2007, 08:43 PM
i have seen that 288 EVO at a few gold track days and the guy always turns up with a load of ferraris on a trailer. totally minted and that evo is quick.

it was running 720 bhp back in those days at silverstone and I nearly got a ride in it. gutted.

they only made 4 of them&#33;&#33;
5 actually.

:D [/b][/quote]
I was told they only made 2, one is in UK, saw it in 1994, nearby Silverstone (will se if I can find the photos) and the other had Ferrrari them self. Or perhaps it is not the same type.

Weeman
24-07-2007, 01:41 PM
Hark at you geeks arguing about how many there are :lol: :lol:

Simon
24-07-2007, 01:53 PM
LOL :lol: . How many were in red? Thats what I want to know :whistle:

Gary Kinghorn
24-07-2007, 02:09 PM
Whatever it is it looks like some attacked it with a 12 bore ;)

Weeman
24-07-2007, 02:15 PM
agreed, looks like it should be grating cheddar for the top of my Shepards pie, rather than hooning around a race track

TBR
24-07-2007, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Thorleif+Jul 24 2007, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thorleif &#064; Jul 24 2007, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by TBR@Jul 24 2007, 04:31 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Das Chin@Jul 23 2007, 08:43 PM
i have seen that 288 EVO at a few gold track days and the guy always turns up with a load of ferraris on a trailer.* totally minted and that evo is quick.

it was running 720 bhp back in those days at silverstone and I nearly got a ride in it.* gutted.

they only made 4 of them&#33;&#33;
5 actually.

:D
I was told they only made 2, one is in UK, saw it in 1994, nearby Silverstone (will se if I can find the photos) and the other had Ferrrari them self. Or perhaps it is not the same type. [/b][/quote]
Chassis Numbers:

70167 The only GTO Evo fitted with Tipo F114CR engine, F40 development car
70205 Standard GTO engine, F40 development car
79887 This one (http://www.qv500.com/Ferrari%20288%20GTO%20P2%202.jpg)
79888 Possibly that one on the RMA day??
79889 Sultan of Brunei

jon_r
24-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Ah, you&#39;ve all been out-geeked.

chris172cup
24-07-2007, 03:36 PM
I have AJ for Tom&#39;s prompt facts.

Gary Kinghorn
24-07-2007, 03:38 PM
So what&#39;s the older one then?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0541-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0490.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0489.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0536.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/IMG_0533.jpg

TBR
24-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Looks like a 1963 330 LMB gary, although i cant be sure.

(the reg helps, but 250&#39;s look similar)

Older ferraris are not my thing.

Gary Kinghorn
24-07-2007, 04:05 PM
It was bloody loud and it was bloody fast :thumb:

Jochen
24-07-2007, 07:27 PM
The same person also owns an even juicier P3.
Only 2 made, 4 exist but 2 are converted from P4.

http://jvc.pingus.be/fotos/RMA_06_05_03/Selection/photos/RS1_1549R.jpg

http://jvc.pingus.be/fotos/RMA_06_05_03/Selection/photos/RS1_0077R.jpg

The recent P4/P5 creation that started life as an Enzo was based on this.
I recently found out this car was designed by a customer of mine who works as a designer at Pininfarina B)

Floyd
24-07-2007, 08:17 PM
TBR said:
Chassis Numbers:

70167 The only GTO Evo fitted with Tipo F114CR engine, F40 development car
70205 Standard GTO engine, F40 development car
79887 This one
79888 Possibly that one on the RMA day??
79889 Sultan of Brunei

Very geeky :o
:loser: :loser: :loser:

It doesn&#39;t look expensive, in fact it looks cheap with less metal on it :shame:

F

Dave G
24-07-2007, 09:26 PM
Floyd, the door, use it more often. You will then feel the benefits of getting out more. :whistle: :P

Jesus, TBR, the above message applies to you&#33; :shame: :loser:

Joel
24-07-2007, 09:54 PM
I had a look at the webcam a few times over the weekend and every time there seemed to be some exotica in view, even more so than on a normal TF day.

Is this Gary&#39;s Pug just returning from a lap in the background?

http://www.thegreenhell.com/northloop/webcam0707211459.jpg

Jim Cameron
24-07-2007, 10:20 PM
Yup. There was some lovely stuff out at the weekend, some of which was going very quickly.


Some of it.... wasn&#39;t :lol:

Gary Kinghorn
25-07-2007, 06:17 AM
Yep that is my 205. It is easy to see as it was by far the cheapest car there :lol: :lol: . If you look doagonally between the GT3RS, and my 205 then the next port of call is the last white lorry. That is the fella with all the Ferrari&#39;s. Parked outside is his silver F50 by the looks of it.

Gary Kinghorn
25-07-2007, 06:31 AM
I have updated the report to add a couple of pictures. Thanks to Jochen for supplying these.

This was the worst the track got all weekend. Most of the time you were lapping and only seeing one or maybe 2 cars.

The Skyline was about to be overtaken (hence my indicator), the Caterham was about to overtake and the CSL had just been lapped :lol: :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/RR3_0793R.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/tvr400/Nurburgring%20RMA%20July%202007/RR3_0792R.jpg

Steve Gill
25-07-2007, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by jim..c@Jul 24 2007, 11:20 PM
Yup. There was some lovely stuff out at the weekend, some of which was going very quickly.


Some of it.... wasn&#39;t :lol:
:shame:

Karl
25-07-2007, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Jul 25 2007, 08:31 AM
The Skyline was about to be overtaken (hence my indicator), the Caterham was about to overtake and the CSL had just been lapped :lol: :lol:


FPMSL you owe me a keyboard :lol: :lol: :lol:

Das Chin
25-07-2007, 02:41 PM
so basically TBR 4 of those made outside the only other one??

dude you need to get out more&#33;&#33;

put yr plonker down.

Gary Kinghorn
25-07-2007, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Karl+Jul 25 2007, 03:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Karl @ Jul 25 2007, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gary Kinghorn@Jul 25 2007, 08:31 AM
The Skyline was about to be overtaken (hence my indicator), the Caterham was about to overtake and the CSL had just been lapped :lol: :lol:


FPMSL you owe me a keyboard :lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

TBR
25-07-2007, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Das Chin@Jul 25 2007, 02:41 PM
so basically TBR 4 of those made outside the only other one??

dude you need to get out more&#33;&#33;

put yr plonker down.
LOL.

My job involves car facts and figures, im not the saddo i appear.
Besides all i did was type "f40 development" into google and clicked the first link.

:wave:

GVK
25-07-2007, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Weeman@Jul 24 2007, 01:41 PM
Hark at you geeks arguing about how many there are :lol: :lol:
LOL&#33; :lol:

Nice report and pics Gary :thumb:

Floyd
25-07-2007, 09:55 PM
I have lapped a car on the Ring :P I have witnesses to prove :ph43r: But not a CSL...

F

Weeman
26-07-2007, 09:19 AM
Not bad floyd how many times did it have to stop to have a poo on the way round though

http://www.ontariocountyfair.org/pix/2002%20pics/Draft%20Horse%20Pulling%20Cart%20m.JPG

Floyd
26-07-2007, 01:26 PM
You&#39;re stalking me, aren&#39;t you ;)

Quit falling in love with me Weeman, you&#39;ll only embarress yourself :P :gay:

F
PS it was a van of some sort. I passed it a T13 and then again on the second lap after PF IIRC.

alclark
31-07-2007, 09:37 AM
Bloody hell, how did I miss this thread? Fantastic looking day, some awesome machinery&#33;&#33;