View Full Version : Monza Dec 09 trackday

11-09-2011, 09:47 PM
Anyway as it was the Italian grand prix today I thought you might like to share my trip there two years ago.
It started the way everything has for the last 3 years with the phone call to my mate Colin who owns the blue fiesta F998.
Em your not using the fiesta are you for the next week. I quite fancy a blast at Monza. (I like going to places with motorsport heritage. I only need to go once generally.)

Heres some pics that I have. I'll need to try and get the other ones off my mates computer as I didn't realise I had lost them !

11-09-2011, 09:52 PM
ok I don't what I am doing here. Not made easier cos Im having to stretch to the keyboard and type one handed cos the cat is resident on my lap.

What should I do so the pics appear?

Darren Langeveld
11-09-2011, 09:59 PM
Copy the photo link (ctrl c) from photobucket

Back on your thread, make sure you're using the 'advanced' editor.

Then, above the text box in the editor - click on the photo frame, and paste the photo link into the box that appears.

Give that a whirl :thumb:

Darren Langeveld
11-09-2011, 10:02 PM

You need to get the correct link to the photo or this happens :to be added again:

I'm sure a moderator will tidy this up when you get the thread going :thumb:

11-09-2011, 10:10 PM

at last sussed. It's so difficult when you've no one to show you !!

11-09-2011, 10:34 PM
right here goes. Cat is on the chair sleeping himself now. (think Sheba advert cat)


It took ages to get up here. If I remember rightly several attempts. Did try running but that got nowhere and the barrier is so rusty. I heard on the F1 today they stopped racing there in '61.



The trusty steed. 2litre running ford injection/management and did 38mpg average over 2400 miles in winter



Think this is a statue of Fangio. I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will point this out.

Ive got some more superb pics but i'll need to go and get them. It was such a friendly circuit but then everyone probably couldn't believe what they were seeing.
I know speedometers over-read etc but along the start finish straight I felt the fiesta go flat in 5th which is nearly 130mph...... Enough for one night.
Will i continue?

12-09-2011, 07:43 AM
Iain, you`ve sussed it now, but this old guide explains it. Photobucket Guide (http://www.northloop.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?9747-How-to-put-photos-in-your-posts..&highlight=photos+posts)

Please post up the rest of the report :thumb:

12-09-2011, 03:35 PM
Keep it going Iain :thumb:

13-09-2011, 08:09 PM
Cheers guys.
Right beware as I think I've said it before that I was the last person into office and secratarial studies in seconde year at high school when you got a taster of everything and as I was sat right under the teacher and there was 'no carry on' as it was called then (now challenging behaviour lol) I decided even though I'll hate it I'll just have to get on with it and the next thing I knew after the 6 weeks or so I could touch type with 8 fingers.... so some folk get massive emails from me but I dont't think anything of it!

I'm trying to retrieve my photos from where I used to live (ahem) but she is away on holiday this week so I'll get them at the weekend. I have some so I thought I would post them up.

It started when I was watching the Italian F1 2 years ago. Next thing I knew I was on the Monza homepage http://www.monzanet.it/en/show/872/Circolazione%20Turistica%20-%20EN and saw they did 'general tourist driving' and that it was available only during the winter months of Dec Jan and Feb.

I saw it was only 45euros or something for 30minutes and thought possibly what could go wrong. 1200 miles across europe in something that was only meant to be a wee bit of fun at Knockhill but so far had been to Folembray and Le Mans as my only fleet of dead cars gets bigger. (just been offered a fiesta tonight for 200 with panels to fix it but I'm not interested anymore!)

13-09-2011, 09:15 PM
just lost what seems likes lots of typing so I'll keep it shorter and post up more.

Essentially I left work at 4pm ish on the Thursday and was picked up by my mate Davie who brought the car down to the Borders from just outside Glasgow.
We had something to eat at the then present home, then left about 7.30pm ish and went and picked up some spares.
2 front hubs, front driveshafts, rear hubs, two alternators, two spare in tank fuel pumps, a coil pack and a radiator plus some hoses. We also had a set of 4 still road legal 048s in super soft.
We missed our 2am ferry as we got lost slightly at the A1 M1 carry on and had to also go the wrong way round London as our slip road was closed until we could come back on again.


This meant that we now hit rush hour traffic in Brussels which was terrible. Maybe I'm too used to my rural lifestyle now when a busy day on the way to work is when it is market day and the sheep trailer are out and about or you have to wait as the 3rd car back from the junction (only1 junction in 13miles where I have to stop) on the way to work. Or harvest time when you have the tractors running non stop. lol.

To let the rush hour traffic clear we went to our favourite place. California Show Girls sadly now closed down. We were extremely sad as we now had to wait for it to open on a wet Friday morning. Opens at 10am. What more can I say.

We then moved on but this time we were going through SE Brussels which was all a bit of a mystery.


We got moving again and after a medium 'is it worth it moment' at a service station East of Brussels we decided to carry on.
The torrential rain now cleared and we went down through Belgium, Luxembourg then picked up the E35 but this is where our trouble started. We got slightly lost at a place called Harkingen where the E35 and E25 mix. We got more than slightly lost and ended up in the town centre dodging trams and asking some guy in an impreza the way to Italy who all he could do was blast off away from us. It was like something out of Monty Python.

I said I woud not drive through the Swiss Alps at night in the dark as it was too dangerous as I felt because there were very few cars about I could hit ice or so and have a big moment and there would be no-one about to find us. At about 10pm it was foggy and there was deep snow at the side of the road so we pulled into a petrol station and this was the sight that greeted us at 5am or so the next morning.

13-09-2011, 09:54 PM

right sorry about the double pics but I am getting better at this...



13-09-2011, 10:10 PM
what's happening here is Crossie is uploading my pics from his computer 150miles away and I've probably left my phone in the car so each time I check there's more photos loaded up!

This here is then what we awoke to on Saturday morning. I'll let the pics do the talking.






Cleaning my teeth. I can sleep in a car but not without cleaning my teeth.
It was actually bitter cold in the night and I kept on switching the engine and fan on. One time I left it idling for 40 mins. Typically this would boil it but it was so cold outside it survived although it was a bit of a scare.


13-09-2011, 10:42 PM
On the move through Switzerland.












13-09-2011, 10:59 PM
More stunning views then into Italy.
I'd almost forgotten myself how amazing the scenery was in WINTER








Finally Italy!


Right enough for tonight.

18-09-2011, 09:48 PM
More. :karl:

18-09-2011, 10:06 PM

Think this is a statue of Fangio. I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will point this out.

Looks like the statue of Fangio which used to be outside the Ring museum

19-09-2011, 08:49 PM
Right new netbook now so hopefully this'll make it easier.

Into Italy.
This was an absolute nightmare. You would think that it would all be signposted like Silverstone is from the nearest main road. (btw Brown tourist signs are only for those that are looking for a place-not meant to be advertising).
Well it wasn't. I had a fair idea where we were going and where about in Milan we should be. Which was to the North essentially. I realise now how brave we were to take on a roadtrip like this with only a map of Europe. We ddn't have a sat nav. Only a fairly good sense of direction!
Well Italy seemed to be full of these and they are a real challenge.


and more...


These tolls were an absolute nightmare. At one toll you get a ticket and then at the next you hand it over. On the way back we actually got out of sync (no idea how) and arrived at a pay booth without a ticket. There was a huge queue but maybe 2 cars at some sort of prepay toll. Well we started to go through the barriers with the car in front. If I remember correctly we 'jumped' 3 tolls. All I could think about was smokey and the bandit theme tune-
'long way to go and a short time to get there...'

To make matters worse when you do this the lights on the gantry flash and an alarm sounds...at one there were police motorcycles but by now we were just desperate to get on our way (home that is). We took no photos of this part of the trip for obvious reasons...

19-09-2011, 09:13 PM
Finding Monza.
I can't quite describe how difficult this was. At one point we were queing to get into some sort of shopping centre with stunning Italian women in Twingos wearing fur and others with leather jackets.
Essentially we asked a roadworker in our best parliamoitalio ie where's monza pal?
I don't like being like this and probably one of the reasons I'm not really keen on being in Germany either. At least when I am in France I can speak enough schoolboy French to be understood and understand what is being said to me. Like the time we were stopped at Calais by the machine gun 'polis' and I suggested to my mate en Francais parle Francais (ok I know the spelling will be wrong lol)

You may hear that there are traffic issues at the Monza F1. Here's why.....

yoof transport by the looks of it in Italy.



This was the first sign we saw for Monza. No sorry second. Saw one similar at the bottom of a roundabout near the kerbline.




Yes it really is a horse...Actually this is the first time I've noticed a second black horse to the left in the picture. Maybe this is normal in Italy?


19-09-2011, 09:32 PM
At last Monza and met by a chap who looks uncannily like the bloke at the end of the tunnel in the Italian job...


Even now when I play this in the car it takes me right back to Italy Dec 09.

Anyway...'Pics paint a thousand words'

Ps notice how I drove through the park on the 'wrong' side of the road...





19-09-2011, 09:49 PM
I've a beta trials bike I thought as I went under this sign.


mmmm Fiat 131 Mirafiorini? or twin cam looking at the pics.




We went upstairs and signed on for the afternoon. 40e for 30 mins driving on the circuit. Superb.
In the meantime this is where we did our exploring of the circuit. Here's some of the other pictures I didn't show at the start of the thread.










I particularly like this one...


25-11-2013, 08:58 AM
Although there is little evidence of it lately, in fact for a number of years I did actually used to go out and do a bit other than just play golf. I guess I put so much effort in for 13 years or so I just got to the stage of enough is enough.
As some may know that'll change next year with the turbo Imp hopefully.

Today I was at my mates and I saw a rather sad sight.:shame:
It's not all bad under there. It's in a breezy bit and is still fundamentally a good shell and for a fwd fiesta reasonably quick. However everything else has got so, so much quicker.

However it needs a cage fitting and various other upgrades before we ever think of doing a track day again in it.

Then I looked back and saw this is such a rubbish trip report, I haven't even got round to putting the track pics up. :lol:

I'll try and do this over the next few days. Monza is easily one of the best tracks I've been on. So so fast !:rave:


25-11-2013, 09:09 AM
Sorry about the oversize pics....







25-11-2013, 09:18 AM
I like to think I've mellowed a bit....:wink: but when these were taken this was my first year after 'retiring' from my xr days and the aggression/bark is obviously still there.... :shame:


Out da way.... I think he did pull over. Mind you so would I now.



'Attack every corner like it's your last'- Ari Vatanen..

There looks something so wrong about this line but at the time it was 'flying'. Must be camera angle. Yip obviously going for it in this one ( pic taken from passenger seat) :thumb:


25-11-2013, 10:19 AM
I found this one particularly difficult to get the braking right for, possibly as there was no real visual reference, except for big countdown boards I guess but I find I like to look 'ahead'.


You think the grandstand is where the turn in would be but it's not... it's essentially at the end of the armco as I remember.



This is the entry to 04 and 05 I think.


Now this seems to be the Curva del Serraglio ....



This was so, so much fun... :rave:



25-11-2013, 10:35 AM

Variante Ascari.


Curva Parabolica







A cracking day but not so sure I would do it again as we took a lot of risks without a roll cage etc in something that was only meant to be a track car at KH when we were younger.

25-11-2013, 10:50 AM
Not everyday you overtake a Ferrari in a Fiesta... :chin:



I couldn't keep up with this well driven/fastTeg though.




Or maybe I did/can't remember now.

Anyway was a cracking day and we got home safely after finding somewhere to stay.

Looking back this all seems quite crazy it was before go pros etc and we did it all on maps. A bit silly.

Connecting back up the various immobilised connections. Interesting to see I had sun glasses on top of my hat. Snow is bright you know !


Anyway sorry about the rubbish unfinished report earlier.

25-11-2013, 11:21 AM
Nice pics of the track.

I love to have a drive of Monza :thumb:

Northloop trackday? :lol:

25-11-2013, 11:22 AM
Nice thread!

I really enjoyed going through all of that :)


25-11-2013, 11:40 AM
That was a great report. Cheers for sharing Ian :thumb:

track looks mega :veryhappy:

25-11-2013, 11:45 AM
Sleeping in a MK 2 in Winter, Mentalist!!!!!

I had one, I think the furthest I ever went in it was Leeds.

25-11-2013, 11:46 AM
i had one, i think the furthest i ever went in it 4th base with a checkout girl


25-11-2013, 11:54 AM
And that lol

25-11-2013, 11:56 AM
Sleeping in a MK 2 in Winter, Mentalist!!!!!

I had one, I think the furthest I ever went in it was Leeds.

It wasn't meant. We missed our ferry and that put us back a couple of hours then of course we were in the middle of rush hour Brussels where it all got worse.

Yip we got a lot of strange looks.

We did allow ourselves the luxury of a nice hotel on the Saturday evening and set off on Sunday for Dunkirk after a hearty Continental breakfast.....:chin:

It was a bit of a worry on the way back because one of the timing belt pulleys had developed a 'tick' you could hear from inside the car but we made it.

I don't think I would do it again, ticked the box etc but I'll never forget being in 5th going along the start/finish straight and feeling the engine go 'flat' which is pretty fast in a mk2 fiesta.....

Yip glad I did it though.:thumb:....

27-11-2013, 06:55 PM
Nice report chap. Thanks for sharing. Now on my list:thumb:

Das Chin
27-11-2013, 08:23 PM
superb effort and report. that banking is so so steep.