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Prawn
30-05-2011, 04:11 PM
So, I didn't expect to be writing another one of these until September, but as it happens, I was made an offer on Friday that I couldn't resist, so for the second time this month, I found myself packing my bags on Friday night, preparing to head to the Ring!


Sorry about the large chunk of text, but here goes. I made an extra special effort with the pics this weekend, just for Nige! :veryhappy:




It all started late Friday afternoon, I was sat at my desk, trying to bring an LED flashing amber beacon back to life using electrical tape, and a string of half head batteries linked up with paper clips:

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I got a call from my mate Andy, asking me if I was free that weekend, and if I wanted to go to the ring with him in his Mondeo CDTI company car, with a view to hiring a swift.

No was the answer, quite simply, it was a stupid idea.

He had booked a tunnel crossing for 2am that night, had no passenger to go with him, hadn't got anywhere to stay, and didn't know if there were any rentals available, or if the track was even open for TF over the weekend.

I had bugger all money, and I've only just been 3 weeks ago. so I put it to the back of my mind, politely declined, and carried on with my work.

Which as it happens, is looking more and more like finished job these days:

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I had a chat with RobBob later on that afternoon whilst we were both sat in Friday evening traffic, and we spoke about Andys crazy idea, and how we must do something similarly impulsive one day, but not until we had a bit more spare cash.

Fast forward 2 hours and I'm sat in a restaurant with Tori (my lovely girlfriend) eating a meal, having a chat about the previous week. She asked me what my plans for the weekend were. I didn't have any, but jokingly told her about Andys offer of a quick dash to the Ring.

To my amazement, she seemed confused that I hadn't jumped at the idea, and suggested that I go!

I don't need to be told twice :) so I rang Andy back, who was thinking of cancelling due to not having a passenger.

The trip was on!

I called Rob and told him not to bother popping over to mine Saturday morning, as wasnt going to be there. He sounded gutted.

Best start packing I guess

10 minutes later, and the phone rings. Robs decided he wants to come, but he wants to bring his own car and drive. A quick call to Andy, and we got the tunnel booking changed over to Robs Leon, and then there were 3 of us.

I packed my bags, and at 23:30, Rob and Andy arrived in the Leon, and off we went, loaded with tents, sleeping bags, and all the camping gear we could need.

0130 and we arrived at the Eurotunnel terminal:

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and onto the train:

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Once parked up, we sat for a minute, and started to realise just how random this trip was!

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A2ON
30-05-2011, 04:52 PM
Funny i spoke to a friend about going for a two day one night trip this weekend

sadly we did not go :(

should have done gutted now any more pics?

Prawn
30-05-2011, 05:19 PM
30 minutes later, and we found ourselves in France, Satnav set for Nurburg, and we were off!

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Driving through the night was great, not many cars on the road, so we kept up a decent average speed, without having to thrash it and use too much fuel.

We also got to see the sunrise as we headed East towards the Ring, which was strangely cool:

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We seemed to be leap frogging a group of bikers for the first 2-3 hours, seeing them at almost every stop:

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You know you're getting close when you start to see the Ausfahrt signs!

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Even closer now:

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After driving through the night, we arrived in Nurburg at 9am. Having got up for work on Friday morning at 6am, we had now been awake 26 hours, and were feeling a bit shattered. Time for breakfast.

Remembering the Burgstube breakfast hours, we thought we'd try our luck and headed up the hill to see if we could grab some breakfast.

We were greeted by Heidi, who was more than happy for us to sit down and have some breakfast, and a much needed cup (or 3) of coffee!

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We had planned to Camp, although to be honest, we didn't want to, it was a financial decision.

When Heidi offered us a good deal on a spare room, we couldn't resist! So all our camping gear was offloaded and stored at the Burgstube, and we got a decent sized room to grab a quick shower and get ready for the day ahead.

As luck would have it, unknown to us previously, the 4th round of the VLN was on, so on advice from Martin, we took a walk down to Hatzenbach to watch the cars come through, it was awesome!

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Poor porsche clipped an E36 and span, ending up parked in the armco

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We then had a quick walk around the Bulovard, which was as always, totally empty, and not worth a pic.

Gorgeous 2002 Turbo on the roadside near the M test centre:

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Headed up the Hill to the Burgstube, to find some serious Horsepower on display in the carpark:

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Down to Lidl to grab snacks and things for Sunday, seeing as most shops are shut.

I love how just about EVERYTHING over here is modified. I particularly liked this beetle on Porsche twists:

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On the way back we popped into Rent-4-Ring, and were lucky enough to find they had just one stage 2 swift left for rental on Sunday, so we signed up the paperwork to have it for Sunday morning, on a 6 laps all inclusive deal. Ralph, Fredy, and Dale were as friendly and helpful as ever, which certainly helps when choosing where to go for a rental.

So, by now it was 6pm, and we had been up for 35 hours without sleep. We got back to the bar, and after a beer, it started to show how tired we were!

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A few more beers, and an early meal and we called it a day at 8pm, 37 hours awake, certainly more than I've done for a while!

11 hours sleep before taking the Swift out was definitely needed

Screacher
30-05-2011, 06:07 PM
Jealous!

Nige
30-05-2011, 06:21 PM
This is a good trip report ! :veryhappy:

Waiting for the next installment ...

Gary Kinghorn
30-05-2011, 06:28 PM
Good effort fella :thumb: You still have some way to go to beat Dave G with his day trips though :whistle:

Simon
30-05-2011, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Nige@May 30 2011, 07:21 PM
This is a good trip report ! :veryhappy:

Waiting for the next installment ...
+1. Crack on :thumb:

Prawn
30-05-2011, 06:41 PM
Just waiting on another 45 photos to upload from Sunday, then I'll do the next installment after dinner.

I'm shattered now! Not looking forward to work tomorrow at all!

Andy_P
30-05-2011, 06:54 PM
My first post here! It was a little last minute but I didn't have anything planned for the bank holiday weekend and I was offered the channel tunnel tickets free of charge so I thought "why the hell not?"

Was pretty sure I'd get someone to come along with me, Prawn being the person who I KNEW who would want to come, but as he had already been this month I doubted he'd be able to.

Would like to thank Rob and Nick for such an awesome weekend - finally got some laps in!! :veryhappy:

Special thanks have to go to Martin and Heidi for putting us up at very short notice and at a great price and to Ralph, Fredy, and Dale at Rent 4 Ring for the Swift, and apologies again for the slight over-rev! oops!! And Solo for his luxury lap in the "Jewish Racing Gold" Toledo!

Looking forward to my next trip out, probably with Nick in september. I HAVE to crack on and get my car finished!!

Andy

Prawn
30-05-2011, 08:05 PM
OK, so, afte 11 hours of sleep, we started to feel human again. Up at 0700, a quick breakfast, then down to rent 4 ring at 8 to pick up the car.

Being that Bob and I (mainly me!) are 'of larger build' Freddy decided to give us the older red car, with the slightly more roomy OMP seats. I'm not sure which model they were, but they fitted me perfectly. Might have to look out for a set.

Fredy showed us around the car, and we handed over our money to Ralph, and off we went!

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I had the first lap out. Due to the randomness of the trip we were on a VERY tight budget, so were only able to book the car for 6 laps, 2 each.

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First lap out, and I thought the car was brilliant. Not powerful in the straights, but wonderfully balanced, and gave great feedback. A really nice little drivers car! It was great fun to be in something where you can be almost flat out just about everywhere

We were also surprised at quite how cool it sounded. Through the tunnel heading towards Eds it made a wicked sound :shout:

After my first lap Rob jumped in, to take Andy round:

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Rob seemed to think much the same as me - great little car

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I then jumped in the pax seat with Andy, for his first ever lap.

I'm by no means experienced, with around 45 driven laps, and maybe 20 pax, but I do at least know which way it goes left and right, so Andy wanted some sort of direction, and an early warning for the tricky bits!

Interesting first lap, certainly much quicker than my first few laps that's for sure! Andy can drive pretty well having had a string of high powered cars of all different shapes and sizes, and said that the directions and gear suggestions were helpful.

We were flying past all the other rentals though, and had a fairly quiet track which was great for a first lap.

I did my second lap after that, and felt much more confident in the swift having had a lap to get to know it, although still very cautious about pushing it too hard being a hire car!

Having had a chat with Fredy last year about the swift, and him saying he could take it round I 08:45 BTG, I couldn't resist setting Harrys lap timer going in my pocket before we left the carpark, and was pleasantly surprised to see it record 09:23 on my second and final lap. Nowhere near Fredy I know, but for a second lap in the car, and fairly few laps in total behind me, I was pleased. I had had GREAT fun.

After that Rob took me round for a lap, and had a really enjoyable lap again. With all 3 of us driving the same car, it was great to chat and compare techniques and lines to see what worked best.

Last up in the swift was Andy for his second and final lap. Being a left hooker it was a bit different for us, and sadlY Andy managed to change from 5th to second on the way into hohenrain chicane. The poor little thing bounced to 8138rpm. Ouch.

Apart from that though it was a really good clean lap, only overtaken at T13 by a focus RS and an 8P S3. Perhaps a bit more surprising was the pace, watching the video clip back later on showed it to be 09:23 BTG. Pretty impressive for a second ever lap.

With all our laps finished, we headed back up to Rent 4 Ring to drop the car off, where we bumped into Solo again.

After Andy had paid for his RPM fail (Thanks to Ralph for knocking some money off!) Mike offered to take us for a lap in the amazing, Jewish Racing Gold Toledo V5. What a great fun lap that was! 4 up in the toledo, and it just cruises around effortlessly, thanks Mike :veryhappy:

Right, bored of typing for tonight, need to get some rest!

Will do the final installment tomorrow :)

Ian H
30-05-2011, 08:17 PM
Nice report, sounds like a great weekend of fun :thumb:

JamesW
30-05-2011, 08:45 PM
Excellent, must do more of these :thumb:

Kev_G
30-05-2011, 11:36 PM
great stuff :D

CaptSolo
31-05-2011, 08:14 AM
It was great to see you guys again! Will probably see you again before the planned trip in September.

And I'm always willing to give a "Toledo Tour" in the epic gold V5 of win.

jon_r
31-05-2011, 08:58 AM
Explain having to pay for over-revving it? Obviously unintentional, but did it break the car then?

Andy_P
31-05-2011, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by jon_r@May 31 2011, 08:58 AM
Explain having to pay for over-revving it? Obviously unintentional, but did it break the car then?
Nope, nothing broken. The reason for the fine is apparently because of service warrenty which is void if the car has been over rev'd.

Personally I think the fine is in place to discourage misbehaviour (I don't know why anyone would purposly do this but I'm sure there are some idiots that might...)

There is the argument that if no damage is done then why pay for something that's not broken? I was never going to argue, you sign a document to agree to their rules, it's their car. If someone over-rev'd my car I'd definately be less than happy.

I don't like left hookers :whistle:

Joel
31-05-2011, 09:12 AM
How did they know? Do they do an ECU dump when you take the car back, or is there a tell-tale on the rev counter?

Andy_P
31-05-2011, 09:16 AM
They've got a little gizmo that data logs the car so that they can see things like TPS, RPM, oil temp, water temp etc for the entire time of the rental period.

jon_r
31-05-2011, 09:19 AM
And also, is it a set fine for just going over a limit they impose, or does it increase the further over the limit you go?

I can understand the reason for the fine, but being honest i'd say it was a bit of a grey area, i'd imagine it happens quite often?

Maybe Dale can answer this one?

Prawn
31-05-2011, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by CaptSolo@May 31 2011, 08:14 AM
It was great to see you guys again! Will probably see you again before the planned trip in September.

And I'm always willing to give a "Toledo Tour" in the epic gold V5 of win.
Thanks Mike, it was great to be out again so soon, and thanks a load for the lap around, the toldeo tour was a great laugh!

We may well be out again before September, but it's all money dependant!

Prawn
31-05-2011, 09:38 AM
I think the fine is variable depending on how bad it is, not sure on that one though.

I do see where they're comming from though, although after 1 big over rev there might not be any adverse effect, but surely after 10-20 mis shifts taking the engine to 8-9k it's going to let go sooner or later? Would you account a failure to a single final over rev? or perhaps the culmination of frequent abuse causing fatigue eventually leading to failure?

Rather than charging one poor bloke a fortune for a new engine, one could assume that the damage is being done over time and multiple driver errors, so the cost of an eventual replacement engine is shared through the fine system.

Either way, as Andy said, it's made VERY clear to you before you sign anything, so you know the consequences and chose to take on the risk.

Andy_P
31-05-2011, 09:51 AM
Exactly my thoughts Nick. One "mild" over-rev was never going to destroy the engine but I imagine it's not so uncommon to happen and would lead to a premature failure after repeated mis-shifts.

Was gutted that it was me that had to go and do it!

N/B
31-05-2011, 09:54 AM
Great report, quality way to spend a weekend!

mr rooney
31-05-2011, 10:27 AM
Great report!
Over revving seems quite common as i witnessed some guys from Brazil at the end of march disputing the fact they seriously over revved a swift even though it showed on the telemetry. Not good for long term reliability i guess.

robbob
31-05-2011, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Prawn+May 31 2011, 09:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Prawn @ May 31 2011, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaptSolo@May 31 2011, 08:14 AM
It was great to see you guys again&#33; Will probably see you again before the planned trip in September.

And I&#39;m always willing to give a "Toledo Tour" in the epic gold V5 of win.
Thanks Mike, it was great to be out again so soon, and thanks a load for the lap around, the toldeo tour was a great laugh&#33;

We may well be out again before September, but it&#39;s all money dependant&#33; [/b][/quote]
Haha Mike I&#39;m not sure I&#39;ll be out before the September trip got a few things to fix first :whistle: Great to meet you, Heidi and Martin. I would recommend a Toledo tour. Epic comfort. Haha.

Garv
31-05-2011, 06:15 PM
Great report keep it coming.

A mate of mine over revved his CTR with a 5th to 2nd downshift. Knackered the big end bearings. It left Nurburg on the back of an ADAC truck headed for the UK :loser:

steve G
31-05-2011, 08:49 PM
the fine is staged depending on the amount you have gone over the limit

Andy_P
02-06-2011, 09:26 AM
Nick, where&#39;s this final installment of our trip then? :whistle:

Prawn
02-06-2011, 10:14 AM
Feck orf :P I&#39;ve been busy.

Will type it up tonight over a beer :)

Andy_P
02-06-2011, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Prawn@Jun 2 2011, 10:14 AM
Will type it up tonight over a beer :)
Good, I&#39;m excited to find out what happened... :lol:

robbob
02-06-2011, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Andy_P@Jun 2 2011, 11:30 AM
Good, I&#39;m excited to find out what happened... :lol:
I am looking forward to the rest. Have had such a mad week so far I have forgotten what happened. Haha :brickwall: :rolleyes:

Andy_P
03-06-2011, 11:19 AM
:chin:

Prawn
03-06-2011, 01:09 PM
OK OK OK, I&#39;m getting there&#33;

nothing all that interesting happened afterwards anyway :)

Will try and get it done tonight&#33;

CaptSolo
03-06-2011, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Prawn@Jun 3 2011, 01:09 PM
OK OK OK, I&#39;m getting there&#33;

nothing all that interesting happened afterwards anyway :)

Will try and get it done tonight&#33;
No.... NOTHING at all... :whistle:

...how is the Leon running?

Andy_P
03-06-2011, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by CaptSolo@Jun 3 2011, 01:28 PM
...how is the Leon running?
*Cough* along the barrier *COUGH*

:whistle:

Prawn
03-06-2011, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Andy_P@Jun 3 2011, 01:37 PM
*Cough* along the barrier *COUGH*

:whistle:
Well, it almost got us home in 1 piece&#33;

...Almost

Chris_S
03-06-2011, 02:46 PM
Spill it :karl:

Prawn
03-06-2011, 02:54 PM
haha, it&#39;s not THAT exciting&#33;

Will complete tonight :)

Terence Ledger
03-06-2011, 03:50 PM
I found the Leon but you guys were nowhere to be seen. Must admit I did not hang around long as I had to get back to lapping...

Prawn
03-06-2011, 07:27 PM
Ah, shame we missed you Terence&#33; I would have looked out for you, but had no idea what you look like&#33;

So, I&#39;ve got 30 mins whilst I wait for my lasagne in the oven, so I might as well finish this off.

With Mikes awesome Toledo Tour completed we headed back down to the carpark for a look around, with a view to doing a few laps in the Leon of Love.

As we were parked in the carpark, a red S1 Elise came in and parked up next to Rob, it was sounding rough, clearly not right at all.

The bloke got out, and started walking around the carpark, clearly looking for something.

Rob overheard him asking a few people with audi Turbos about coil packs, and cheekily asked what was wrong.

As it turns out, this rather innocent looking S1 elise had a 225bhp 1.8T BAM engine in it, from an LCR.

As luck would have it, Rob had a spare 1.8T coilpack in the boot of the Leon, the chap (James) could hardly believe his luck&#33;

30 Euros were handed over, Rob explained to James how to diagnose which coilpack was at fault, and the new coilpack was slotted in. A few jokes were made about us stealing it back if the Leon popped a coilpack of it&#39;s own, but after a year or more without issue, we wernt expecting any problems

Success, James turned the key and the car ran perfectly straight away.



As a thanks, James then took Rob out for a passenger lap, which Rob tells us was pretty awesome.

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After Robs lap, we decided to take the Leon of love out for a cheeky lap.

After the Swift, the Leon certainly felt a bit different, 3 up with Andy in the back, we had a great fun lap, taking it fairly easy.

The Leon was going well, a bit understeery on normal road tyres, but otherwise running very nicely.

Out of AF, and heading down to Metzgesfeld, a GT2 appeared fairly rapidly in the mirrors, Rob moved over straight away (as you do&#33;) and backed off, but as the GT2 came past, he cut RIGHT in front of us, so stupidly close we jsut couldn&#39;t believe it, and to make matters worse, he hammered the brakes on in front of us got MG1&#33;

Scary stuff.....

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At 91mph, that is TOO close.

So, with that scare over (and a small scare for Andy and I when Rob insists on playing with lift off oversteer) we decided to head for lunch.

3 Devils Diner Burgers sorted that out a treat :) No pics I&#39;m afraid, we were too hungry&#33;

After lunch we headed over to Brunchen for a bit to watch the TF for a while, something we rarely get time to do, as we spend most of the time lapping.

Didn&#39;t bother taking pics of TF, because lets face it, you all know what it looks like&#33;

I did find myself rather drawn to this mk2 leon though:

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Seriously considering one as my next daily. I know I should man up, but I have a thing for high powered FWD cars that I can&#39;t seem to shake. I even sold my M3 for a turbo&#39;d A3&#33;

So, after 20 mins watching Brunchen, we got bored, and decided to take a walk, first to Eschbach:

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Then round to Hohe Act (Have I got that right?)

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And then on down to the Karussell:

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Sadly, after about 20 mins sat there watching, there was an accident somewhere, and the track was closed.

Being typically british, we decided to do the typical lads thing, and get a few pics of us on the track :)

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We got some other British guys there to take this pic:

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Then, JUST as they took the pic, we heard a car comming up the Hill from Bergwerk, so we legged it&#33;

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Decided at that point to head back towards Brunchen, and back to the Burgstube

Gorgeous views of the track on the way back:

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Lasagne is now ready, more after dinner&#33;

robbob
03-06-2011, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Chris_S@Jun 3 2011, 02:46 PM
Spill it :karl:
Nothing happened at all :whistle: I&#39;ll wait for prawn to finish the story. :shame:

Prawn
03-06-2011, 08:45 PM
A few more nice motors when we got back to the carpark:

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Back at the Burgstube, we met Steve, a regular visitor (I&#39;m sure you guys know him), and driver of a black 306 Rallye, which this weekend, had red wheels (although sometimes green).

Steve very kindly offered to take all 3 of us out for a pax lap each, which was great fun.

Steves car was very nicely prepared too, standard engine wise, but everything else was seriously nicely done, out on the track it felt so planted and composed, and with me on board, Steve drove a very smooth, yet really very quick lap.

Having done 300 laps or so, Steve had about 6x as much experience as me, and it really showed, I&#39;ve learnt from my pax laps over the weekend that I&#39;m not using enough of the track on many places, and most surprising to me, was how much all 3 guys I went out with used the kerbs, the main ones being Hatzenbach, the left hander after Foxhole, and Eiskurve. I already use the Kerbs in Wipperman after watching Dales first lap vid a while back, but these others were new to me.

After my lap, Steve took Andy and Rob round for a lap each too, and both the guys echo&#39;d just what I&#39;d said, very smooth, yet very quick. One of my favourite laps ever, thanks Steve.

Sadly, being useless, none of us got a pic of Steve or his car, so you&#39;ll just have to imagine a friendly Scottish bloke, with a black 306 on lairy red wheels.

EDIT: As I&#39;m typing this ANdy just sent over a pic of Steves car:

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With the pax laps done, Andy jumped into the car with Steve, and Rob and I jumped into the Leon, and headed out of the carpark.

Going round the roundabout, we noticed the time, 17:30. It seemed a bit too early for Beer O&#39;clock, and this is where we made a terrible mistake.

&#39;&#39;Bit early for a beer isn&#39;t it Bob, what shall we do?&#39;&#39;

&#39;&#39;Fancy another lap?&#39;&#39;

&#39;&#39;Yea, why not, just the one more&#39;&#39;


We donned the helmets for one last time, I bought a ticket, and we headed to the barrier in the Leon, Bob driving of course.

There was hardly any traffic around at all as the day drew on, so we knew we were in for a nice clear, enjoyable lap.

Through the barrier, and we were off. The car felt good in the early evening cool air.

Through Hohenrain chicane with good pace, around T13 and down the hill, it felt like it was going to be a good lap.

Approaching Hatzenback, Bob was going a bit on the quick side, and didn&#39;t get on the brakes early enough.

We straight lined the first left hander, then came back onto the track mid way through the right hander

We scrubbed off a lot of speed across the width of the track, and thanks to ABS, Rob managed to get the car to turn back towards the correct direction, but sadly it wasn&#39;t quite enough.

The front end just about gripped and turned, but by this time the rear of the car had reached the far kerb, the back end came round, and just kissed the barrier. Looking back through vids on youtube I don&#39;t think this is armco, it&#39;s something big, red, and white.

Thankfully, I had quick check which showed that there was almost NO damage at all, the wheel had taken most of the impact, yet still looked straight, and just a light scuff on the bodywork. Not a mark on the barrier, so with nothing to report, and not wanting to be in danger stood by the edge of the track on the outside of the bend, we carried on.


Once rolling, the car seemed 100% fine, and everything still worked, and it drove straight, so we carried on very slowly, feeling a little ashamed, and really regretting that &#39;one last&#39; lap.

Back in the carpark, we had a good loook over to see if there was anything else to worry about

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Aside from a gouge in the bumper, and a scuff on the quarter panel, it all looked fine, The wheel was pretty scuffed, and appeared to have taken most of the impact.

Lucky escape I guess, just goes to show that just as you start to think you know it, the worst happens.....

Prawn
03-06-2011, 09:26 PM
To make matters a little more funny, Whilst Rob and I were having a very quiet, very slow lap of shame, I got a phone call from Andy, saying he had been jumped on by an Angry Scotts man asking who owned the black Leon.
Apparently Rob had cut him up a tad at Karussell, dropping in below a bike who looked like he was going round the outside, but was infact just dropping in very late.

Either way, whoever was at fault, the bloke sounded pretty angry&#33;

Andy explained that it wasn&#39;t his, but infact his mate, who would be there soon. He then called to Warn us.

Rob started to worry a bit more. A very tense lap for him then&#33;

We walked into the Burgstube to be greeted by a really rather big bastard Scottsman, who seemed really quite angry. A few angry words directed at Rob, and a few expletives, and Rob confessed to not remembering the incident at all

&#39;&#39;Look, mate, I&#39;m REALLY sorry if I cut you up, I honestly didn&#39;t mean to. I&#39;ve just crashed my car, and I&#39;m not in the best of moods. Can I buy you a beer and call it quits&#39;&#39;

&#39;&#39;Aye, that&#39;ll be a start lad&#39;&#39;

So, Rob bought the chap a beer, and hoped for the best&#33;

As it turns out, the bloke wasn&#39;t angry at all, he was just trying to shit Rob up for a laugh.

It worked&#33; Had me going for a bit too&#33;

We ended up chatting to the guy, he was there with his mate Stuart, and the pair of them had bought their kids too.

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Stuart on the left, then his son (sorry didn&#39;t get your name) Then Kirsty (daughter of Mac), then Mac (the big angry Scotts bastard)

Mac bet andy a beer that he couldn&#39;t down a glass of Heidis sauce, being a pompey lad, Andy wasn&#39;t about to lose a challenge:

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I don&#39;t think he enjoyed his beer though, after half a pint of thick white sauce :S

A couple of pints went past, and a few drunken stories exchanged:

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It turns out, Mac and Stuart live in Camberly, just 15 minutes away from me, and even better news, Mac had a spare 16&#39;&#39; leon Cupra alloy wheel, just like the one Rob had just ruined, and the best bit was, it was FOC&#33;

After abour an hour sat there, Mac got up to go and find the bathroom.

I have to say, none of us were expecting him to be sat there in the worlds tightest cycline shorts&#33;

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His poor 15yr old daughter looked thoroughly distraught at her Dad dancing in the bar in some skin tight shorts&#33;


As always seems to be the way, we ended up heading to bed at Stupid O&#39;clock, after sitting at the Bar chatting to Martin again, I&#39;m sure he must get very bored talking about the same stuff to new visitors all the time, but still, it&#39;s this friendly approach that makes the place so appealing. Massive thanks to Martin for all the advice over the weekend :)

After about 3 hours sleep, we got up at 5am, and packed our bags, it was looking like a beautiful day in Nurburg:

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The infinitely solid Leon of Love was looking a little sorry for itself, but ready for the trip ahead none the less:

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We hit the road around 6am, thankfully, Rob was looking really rather with it:

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Andy and I, were not so:

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A bit different to how we all looked when we started out 3 days ago&#33;

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Whizzing through the german countryside

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A quick stop for refreshments, somewhere in belgium I think. I bought the most horrid sandwich ever :( so soggy&#33;

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Not far to go now:

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Listening to StuBru radio most of the way home, some of it actually isn&#39;t that bad&#33;

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Here we are, pulling into the train/tunnel terminal:

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The trains are looking pretty grotty these days:

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parked up behind a nice TT on the train, not far from England now&#33;

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I decided to try and get some shut eye on the train. For some reason in my tired state, it seemed like a good idea to Don my helmet and glasses to air sleep:

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I soon realised how much of a tit I looked, and gave up on the sleep idea.

Back in the UK&#33; and the weather already looked more miserable:

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Andy was being really vocal, clearly he was excited to be back on home soil:

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100 miles completed off the ferry port, and thing were going well. We were only 20 miles from my house, and aside from Robs Talent fail, the trip had been a huge success&#33;

As we passed Fleet services, Rob pulled out to overtake a lorry, and put his foot down.


BBBBBRRRBRBRBRBRBRBRRRRRRRRRRRRRR................. .

The Leon started sounding like a bloody Subaru&#33;

We were greeted by this:

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The dreaded engine management light.

Would you believe it, it had only gone and blown a coil pack&#33; After all our joking around about giving the spare away to James in the Elise, I guess it&#39;s only Sodds law that we blew one at some point. Thank god it was only 20 miles from home though&#33;

We unplugged the injector on the dead cylinder, so as not to cause bore wash and kill the cat, and carried out, very slowly, back to Basingstoke.

We tried the Audi dealer, and the VW dealer, but none had a parts counter open on the bank holiday.

So we headed over to City Seat, to try our luck over there:

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No joy, plenty of people, but none that could function in enough of a human way to get a coilpack from the store room, so we limped back to mine, where Rob borrowed a coilpack off my car to get him home, and dropped it back later that night.

From one ring road to another (I&#39;m SO lucky&#33;)

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Not quite the same I know, but our Ring Road has roundabouts. you dont get them on the Nurburgring&#33;

And that people, concludes my trip report&#33;

Massive thanks to everyone involved in making our trip great, Thanks to Andy for the mental idea, to Rob for driving, Thanks to Martin and Heidi, for putting us up at such short notice, Mike for all the entertainment and a friendly face, and all the boys at Rent-4-Ring for being as cool as ever.

also a big thanks to Tori my girlfriend, for letting me go to the Ring twice in a month and not being the slightest bit annoyed about it&#33;

See you all again in September folks :)

robbob
04-06-2011, 02:02 PM
Just been out with the T-Cut and its come up alot better now. :whistle: :shame:

Steven Campbell
04-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Poor picture of the wee 306 boyo&#33; I&#39;d like to point she&#39;s wearing about 1000 miles of road scum at that point..but was looking nice and shiney before it went anywhere near the track.
Nice to meet you lads. You certainly had an eventful trip&#33;

Prawn
05-06-2011, 07:55 AM
Didn&#39;t realise you were on here Steve :)

Thanks again for the lap, sorry the pic doesn&#39;t do it justice&#33;

Dan
05-06-2011, 08:37 AM
Nice report that. :thumb:

Andy_P
05-06-2011, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by AGT@Jun 5 2011, 08:46 AM
not stopping after an accident is retarded and illegal. and it sounds like the spastic who crashed did a full lap afterwards. any reason he didn&#39;t come off at Breidsheid (apart from his learning problems)?
Any reason for a personal attack on the mental capability of another forum member? By all means, this is a public forum where you can freely voice your opinion but do so a possibly less hurtful manner?

Not saying he was right our wrong just that I&#39;d have expected a more professional and thought out (and mature) response from someone that offers legal advice with a post count like yours.

:karl:

Prawn
05-06-2011, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by AGT@Jun 5 2011, 08:46 AM
not stopping after an accident is retarded and illegal. and it sounds like the spastic who crashed did a full lap afterwards. any reason he didn&#39;t come off at Breidsheid (apart from his learning problems)?
Andrew, it&#39;s very much a &#39;you had to be there&#39; type thing.

looking at the damage to the car, the impact was obviously very light, I did give the car a quick check over there and then, but being sat on the outside of a fast bend, we didn&#39;t fancy hanging around for long, so Rob stayed in the car, and I just took a quick look and told him to carry on.

No visable mark on the barrier at all, nothing more than a light paint scuff on the car that didn&#39;t even cause a dent, what&#39;s to report? Surely there is nothing illegal there?

You wouldn&#39;t stop and report it if you rode a kerb too hard would you? as that could definitely do more damage.

We did want to pull off at Breidscheid, but as we came down the hill there was a truck pulling out of the exit, and from what I could see, the exit and entrance are one and the same (I&#39;ve never had need to pull off here before). With faster cars comming down behind us, it didn&#39;t seem safe to stop on the track and wait for the truck to pull out before we could pull in.

The car was fine too, so I don&#39;t think there was any huge need to pull in, we just did a bit of sight seeing for the rest of the lap.

Apologies if I perhaps &#39;over told&#39; the story to make it sound worse than it was, it was all a bit of a blurr at the time, but looking at the results, it was clearly nothing more than a scuff.

Prawn
05-06-2011, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by AGT@Jun 5 2011, 06:26 PM

in your first account you said:

- your mate was driving at 100mph. since edited to &#39;a bit quick&#39;
- it was a big impact. since edited out. now its a minor impact.
- you checked the damage in in the mirrors when driving off. since edited out. now you stopped and checked the damage.

:chin:

anyway, lessons probably learned. :racing:
Fair enough Andrew, point taken about the General conditions. I thought that if no damage were done, and there was nothing to see, that no report needed to be made.

I did edit the original post, based on your advice. I think the excitment of me recounting the trip lead me to somewhat &#39;over tell&#39; the story, so I&#39;ll quickly explain the points you&#39;ve made:

I did indeed say 100mph, purely an estimate based on my own experience, and the gear we were in, a speed not uncommon on the ring at all, although in this instance, yes, it was a bit quick&#33;

Initially we had thought it was a big impact, I think this is 50% due to inexperience of any real big impact, and 50% adrenalin talking when recounting the story. Looking at the &#39;damage&#39; to the car, it clearly wasn&#39;t a big impact afterall.

I never mentioned looking in the mirrors in my original account, (sorry if it read like that) I simply said that from my position I couldn&#39;t see any damage, Rob stayed in the car, whilst I jumped out and took a quick look down the side to find it looked just fine. With cars flying past at high speed I didn&#39;t fancy talking a walk around the car and putting myself trackside, so I jumped back in and we carried on.

As you said though, Lessons most definitely learned.

How DO you get off at Breidscheid? Do you really have to turn back on yourself? or is there another exit that I&#39;ve missed?

Jim Cameron
05-06-2011, 07:48 PM
andrew, you almost managed to be a good forum member. Try not to insult people, stick to the constructive stuff, like you haven&#39;t got a learning problem yourself ;)

Prawn & co.... don&#39;t let the charm-free presentation detract from the fact that he&#39;s right. Leaving the scene is verboten... and dangerous. Pleased that you&#39;ve learnt from it. There are several marshals on the forum, let alone Gmbh staff, it would be silly to pretend otherwise.

Glad you&#39;ve had a good trip, helped others, been helped yourself... I think you may have caught a very expensive bug now :thumb:

Stace
05-06-2011, 08:31 PM
I wasn&#39;t aware of lots of this sort of stuff on my first two visits.

Don&#39;t worry about AGT. He&#39;s special.

Chris_S
07-06-2011, 01:12 PM
&#39;&#39;Fancy another lap?&#39;&#39;

&#39;&#39;Yea, why not, just the one more&#39;&#39;


Awesome. Did he shout "Watch this..." just before the corner to complete the set?&#33; :lol: :lol:

Sounds like a good trip though :veryhappy:

Prawn
07-06-2011, 02:26 PM
hahaha, no, but that really would have completed the occasion&#33;

Jim: lesson learned on this one, thanks for the advice.

What SHOULD we have done in the situation? Given that there was no visable damage to car or barrier, should we have carried on to breidscheid and reported it there, or reported it by phone and waited on the side of the track despite the lack of visable outcome? just so that we had the verbal all clear to continue?

Tim
07-06-2011, 02:47 PM
Check the car isn&#39;t leaking anything, check something isn&#39;t about to fall off and clonk a biker, check you haven&#39;t damaged the barrier, check that you haven&#39;t pulled a (Oops I said the F word) load of dirt onto the track.

There were two of you in the car, one should have got out flagged whilst the other did the above.

Kev_G
07-06-2011, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by AGT@Jun 5 2011, 08:11 PM
and this is how to come on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E ('http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E')
:lol:
scary thing is ive met that guy :rolf:

Good report and well done on having the balls to say something happened and what you did - now learning from it all.

Jim Cameron
07-06-2011, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Kev_mk3+Jun 7 2011, 03:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kev_mk3 @ Jun 7 2011, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AGT@Jun 5 2011, 08:11 PM
and this is how to come on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E ('http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E')
:lol:
scary thing is ive met that guy :rolf:

Good report and well done on having the balls to say something happened and what you did - now learning from it all. [/b][/quote]
Seriously? He should be the Guest of Honour at the Northloop Christmas do&#33; Does he do after dinner speaking?

Kev_G
07-06-2011, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Jim Cameron+Jun 7 2011, 04:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jim Cameron @ Jun 7 2011, 04:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Kev_mk3@Jun 7 2011, 03:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-AGT@Jun 5 2011, 08:11 PM
and this is how to come on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E ('http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E')
:lol:
scary thing is ive met that guy :rolf:

Good report and well done on having the balls to say something happened and what you did - now learning from it all.
Seriously? He should be the Guest of Honour at the Northloop Christmas do&#33; Does he do after dinner speaking? [/b][/quote]
he is on e36coupe i mentioned i was off to the ring when i was at a RR day with them when i had the Astra and he said to google that clip as it was him :rolf: