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13-06-2009, 01:01 PM

Good the bad and the ugly… (but not in that order)

Hi just returned back from my trip to the Ring and Switzerland, had a good time and thought I would share a few photo’s and my Ring Virgin experience. We stayed in Gilgenbach above some other English guys who seemed to know what they were doing, then i saw the Honda Civic come back after an accident, it looked bad, i wanted to ask what happened but felt it wasn't appropriate, but after reading the thread it seems it was all ok. :thumb:

see http://z8.invisionfree.com/Northloop/index...showtopic=19187 (http://z8.invisionfree.com/Northloop/index.php?showtopic=19187)

We had a plan to recon the Ring on Sunday and drive on Monday as we though it would be less busy.


Went to the track which was 5 mins from out accommodation, and saw 2 BMW CSL on the road to the track. I remember saying in another post about seeing the odd Porsche and others saying "you really have never been have you?" now i know what you mean.


I thought we would see a few good cars and a few random super cars, but TBH 99% were cars you just don’t see everyday, so we went to the ticket booth and pick up 2 tickets and had a look around the car park (or showroom). People are simply standing and watching the cars queue to go out and file back in from the track, it’s a good atmosphere as everyone is milling around getting tickets or chatting in the carpark.



Including the track layout (how could I forget)

13-06-2009, 01:02 PM

I thought that as it was busy but steady I would go out for a lap, so with the crash helmets on, I joined the 50m queue of random cars to the toll barriers. Then 3 cars from putting the credit card ticket on the electronic machine the marshals step in front of the cars and make a cross symbol with there hands, Track closed…

There had been an accident out on the track and it was all over for the next 30mins 1 hr 4 hrs, you never know. Only these boys had the privilege of waiting next to the barriers it seems.


We decided to pop back to our house and get some lunch before trying again. So a couple of hours later we went back to the track. It was closed again and sat in a queue on the road leading to the track (500m away) behind the Ring Taxi that had gone to the local garage for fuel. We were just next to the overflow car park entrance so we went in and had another look around the car park and the smaller track car park.

After chatting with a UK BMW E30 3 series driver about how long the track could be closed for we decided to visit a few spectator points I had put into the Garmin to pass the time. On arriving at the spectator points and having a look around the track reopened,
Looks like it was a bike accident


But we decided to take some shots and leave the driving to Monday as planned.


We couldn't believe the track elevation, and how this could drastically effects the grip levels, especially when you are moving off the racing line to allow a motorbike or GT3 to flash past. Always having to adjust the speed you want to take for the racing line then reducing it to be able to brake and steer around the right hand side of the track to allow a faster car to pass while indicating and moving to the right (which you must do) and something i thought was more important than anything else.

It looked very hard work…

13-06-2009, 01:03 PM

On Monday we had a plan to get to the track before it opened at 8am get into the track car park and wait for it to open. Lots of people had the same idea and the car park soon filled up with all sorts of cars including a Muscle car club from the UK and some Jap cars.


3 UK guys got out of a Subaru next to me, I made small talk about having the lowest powered car in the car park, and they mentioned about the fact that some of the low powered cars get around the quickest because the people know the track. They said they had no idea where each corner went, so at least I was a bit more confident then, but most people are just about enjoying the experience and get a lap in without incidents.

Anyway as soon as I saw people heading to the barriers I jumped in the car Helmet on and when out. Getting through the barriers leads to a sequence of cones and then you are released to hack it under the bridge and down to the first sequence of corners (where everyone goes off on Forza)

I have driven the Ring to death on Forza and every GT game it was in. But I was shocked at how different it was, from the bridge to the first sequence was much shorter the section around the barriers (next to the Forza pitlane) was shorter and every section came up in shorter track length and far quicker than I had imagined.

But anyway, leading down into the first sequence of corners I glanced at the speedo 95mph (a lot for my little car!) I went though a few sections and got to the Hetzanbach section I know this is a quick section but I wasn’t sure what I would meet so I looked in the rear view again and decided to stick to the racing line and keep off the curbs and be smooth, all went ok. I knew Hocheichen was next leading to the large rise at Hohe, which i knew lead to a blind right hander, another few looks in the rear view mirror and just when for it!!

Before Adenauer Forst you get the long down hill section which you can straighten, I checked the rear view and saw a car gaining at double my speed (I was just over 90mph again) I flicked on the right indicator and saw it was a white 911 GT3 RS and it flashed past as we headed into Adenauer Forst "Noob Corner" I hear, I really didn’t want to give any spectators something to cheer about, luckily another 911 came up behind, I indicated right and let him past, I followed his line and got through without a hitch.

The rest on the lap was like this with me learning and indicating along with all the other cars, I indicated right for a Porsche to pass and the Porsche GT3 RS nearly took our front wing off as he went past, he moved over so quickly to the right in front of me to let an even faster GT3 go past, and this is what struck me as great, bikes, cars, super cars all at different levels of ability and track experience.

On the second lap I overtook a few cars including a Megane that didn’t really know what to do or when to move out of the way and a few cars were sitting behind not sure if he had seen them, and an MX5 leading out of the corner next to the Ring hotel (Breidsheid). And up the steep hill third gear right hander.


Second lap was faster even thought it didn't feel it, so no drama, or problems and i was happy to go quicker and not hold up the faster guys, no wrong gears just a smooth drive and more enjoyable than the first due to being a fraction fimiliar with what was coming

13-06-2009, 01:04 PM
The ugly

After the driving we went to Brunnchen and Breidsheid to watch the cars in the sunshine, the crowds were out and as it was a nice day.



Unfortunately the track was closed again after a motorbike rider went over the barrier near Brunnchen. The police and ambulance were called and it resulted in a great deal of time where nothing was happening, we feared the worst when a curtain was erected over the barrier.

Eventually he was lifted to the ambulance and the police started taking pics of the scene as normal road law applies I understand. I thought that he might have been ok as the Ambulance wasn’t moving away, but it was waiting for this.


It landed on the track between the trees and air lifted him to hospital, hopefully he will be ok and all he will need to worry about is whether his travel insurance will cover the air ambulance.

Anyway I hope you like the Photo’s, unfortunately i have been through all the sites listed here and can't find one of me, but perhaps next year. But I’m hooked and we will be going back!!












13-06-2009, 02:41 PM
What an enjoyable read :thumb:

When are you going back ?? ;)

13-06-2009, 02:52 PM
Good read that, enjoyed it B)

What did you go in?

13-06-2009, 08:56 PM
Thanks we really enjoyed it, it was a great experience, if not a little tainted at the end after seeing the big accident.

We will go next June-ish although now knowing that the 1st of june is some kind of german bank Holiday, and with the Rock am Ring, we might pick a quieter week.

We went in a little Audi A2 Sport, which is great as its under 1000kg due to it being all aluminum, and with a RR remap its reasonably torqy at 280nm(i made that word up) :D


13-06-2009, 09:22 PM
Good write up. Glad you enjoyed your trip. Ask Jochen if he has any pics, he was about that weekend (frozenspeed.com)

13-06-2009, 09:37 PM
Thanks I just sent him a quick email

18-06-2009, 11:57 AM
Good read :thumb:

18-06-2009, 12:12 PM
Nice write up

19-06-2009, 07:02 AM

And thanks Trevor, just got my images from Frozenspeed, so once I decide I will post them up!!

steve G
22-06-2009, 08:15 PM
nice write up mate.that is me in the 2nd pic from the end in the mk2 golf :D
if you dont mind i would like to save it to my hard drive

23-06-2009, 02:36 PM
Got the pics from Frozenspeed.com

Thanks very much Jochen. (And Trevor for letting me know about him)

After a few emails he had the pics I wanted. i got 5 images but i thought i would share 2 of them.



@ Steve G

Sure no problem, if you want I can send you the original that is bigger (this was reduced for forums to 800px.

If you PM me you email address I will send it when i get home

24-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Picture of your Mk2 sent Steve G