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Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 05:11 PM
Posted in here to ensure people see it, will move it in a few days.


Gary, Jim, Floyd, Simon and Ring Skoda.


6.30am, that’s the time Jim was supposed to be picking me up. When it got to 6.45am I thought ‘’No, I’m not ringing him, he will only think I’m hassling him’’. 7am I thought, ‘yeah actually I will call’’. The reply I got when the phone was eventually answered was a slurred ‘’Bollocks, on way’’ Yep he was still fast asleep.


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Plenty of fog but an easy trip to my brothers in Chatham to meet up with Floyd and Simon with the Ring Skoda


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25 minutes later we had managed to get the Skoda to cruising speed and were well on our way to the tunnel. Just before we got there we got a call from Bubbles saying he was on his way with Lauren and they would be on the same crossing as us.

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Over the other side we set off after the R8 and gradually hauled him down and passed him.
When we all stopped for fuel we met up with these guys who had also destroyed the R8 on the Brussels to Liege road. They were on their way to compete in the Spa 24hr so we gave them a Northloop sticker to help hold the car together.

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Bubbles asked if I fancied a stint in the R8 for a change of scenery. I thought about it long and hard before agreeing. He then threw me the keys and said you’re driving, I’m tired. ‘’Oh ok then’’
A nice experience and I was lucky enough to get the entertaining part of the drive to do. I was amazed how civilised the car was pulling cleanly from 20mph in 6th gear.

We arrived at the ring in time to watch the end of the VLN racing.

Up to the Burgstube to see Martin and Andy and get checked in. Karl was already on the phone asking where we were so 10 mins later we were on our way to the comfy corner.

As per usual Jorg was putting on a good show for us.

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It was great to catch up with so many old friends after what seems like a very long time.

The only problem was we appeared to have double booked with a train spotters convention

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The beer was being consumed at a silly rate and everyone got very drunk. Andy won the prize for the drunkest person in Adenau that night though

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Late on Jim and I looked round to see where our lift was. Hmmm he had gone home an hour ago. Ross and Bren kindly agreed to get us back to Nurburg. It was a little cramped though. Jim and I both had to get into the boot of a fiesta. On the way I thought it was cold as the boot wasn’t shut and repeatedly slammed it to try to resolve the issue. Jim later told me it was his shoulder I was slamming it on.

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Back at the room we decided Floyds bed should be thrown out the window with him in it. He put up a bit of a fight before doing an impression of a limpet crab exiting his shell and jumping into the next available one. That left me with a mattress on the floor and no strength to put it back on the bed. I lay down and slept where I fell.




MORE TO FOLLOW LATER

Floyd
16-10-2008, 05:30 PM
It's all coming back :whistle:

Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Floyd@Oct 16 2008, 06:30 PM
It's all coming back :whistle:
I thought it was only Shak who threw up :fish:

Floyd
16-10-2008, 05:46 PM
Poor chap :D I think he needs a lesson in partying :smack:

Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 05:48 PM
Just finishing the second part :thumb:

Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 05:59 PM
Sunday morning was not looking good. The hang over from hell was in the air and I was not feeling good. Down to breakfast, Martin put on a full English for us. Some of the others joined us. Russ, Shak, Craig and his Lotus friends, Weeman and a couple of newbies.

That done it was down to the track. Just one small problem, pee soup fog. How long did it last? Till just after lunchtime, that’s how long.

By now the place was heaving and there was a good chance to talk to those I had only said a drunken hello to the night before. To name a few, Bren, Ross, Dave bloody well can drive, Juanjo and Rachel, jf Cole, jon r, Chris, Dale, ufuk and Einar.

When the track finally opened I happened to be near Jim and the Ring beemer so against my better judgement off we went. We made it to T13 before the old girl gave up the ghost
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Sean asked me if I fancied a lap driving the R8. I jumped at the opportunity and off we went. We put in a reasonable pace lap considering it was my first lap of the year, the track was very busy and I was driving someone else’s £90K car. A very easy car to drive and plenty of fun.

Then I sat next to Sean for a lap and enjoyed having him throw me around.

Of course the inevitable happened as it normally does with late openings and busy days. The track was soon closed. When this happened for the 3rd or maybe 4th time I decided my hangover had got the better than me and retired to the Burgstube for a good hard sleep.

The others came back at around 6pm and woke me up.
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I nearly didn’t make it to the Pistenklause that evening but managed to force myself. Like you do. Earlier Sean and I had joked that the only good pics of the R8 were bound to have been ones with me driving. Jochen confirmed this 2 mins after walking through the PK door.

The usual Steak on the stone and beer (not for me) ensued. NeVeTas and james joined us too.

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For some reason Weeman had a chip on his shoulder all night
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Back to the Burgstube for the last drink and called it a night about mid-night.



MORE TO FOLLOW

Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 06:49 PM
Monday morning and glorious sunshine. This was really lucky for RSR else their morning track day would have been cancelled.

After a bit of a lie in Andy set to making the breakfast. He did a marvellous job, even though Jim kept getting in the way.

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Floyd, Shak and I nipped to T13, then Hatzenbach, then flugplatz to take a few pics.

Ron was out doing his stuff in the Prosport.
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Juan thought it was August. Although he might just have been excited at the thought of driving a GTR the next day
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Back in the car park Simon still needed parking lessons
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Jim blagged a pax lap in the Prosport with Ron. They came back with a broken exhaust.

At around 1pm the track opened for tourist laps and out everyone went. Only this time it was far quieter than the day before.

Floyd was quick to jump in the R8
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I had a wander round and a chat to Andy (Sixspeed) and his friend (whose name I have forgotten :shame: ) who asked me if I would drive his 205 for him. I didn’t take much persuading a nicely moded Mi16 was going to be fun. A very nice lap it was too, the car felt strong and sure footed. Hopefully he enjoyed it too.


Down to Adenau for some lunch and it was time to play again. Jim offered me the keys to the 335. He and Russ followed in Russ’s E36 M3. I had pax’d with Russ earlier and knew he was quick, so I was keen to be away on my toes. All too quickly Russ caught me but he was happy to tuck in behind while I did my stuff in the E30. It was my first E30 lap on the ring and I really enjoyed it. The 335 proved to be a very enjoyable bit of kit.

By 5pm we all decided we would run for the hills. Bills paid we were on our way. Sean left a full 30 mins before us. When we arrived at the tunnel terminal there was no sign of Sean. He turned up 15 mins later after Shat Naf had taken him on several detours around the French countryside ………. R8, pahhhhh, Ring skoda is the way forward.

Back in blightly it was a quick dash for him and I was knocing zed’s out by 1am.

A great weekend with great friends. The Northloop family just keeps growing and getting better and better.


Special mention to

Jorg for the meal on Saturday - Brilliant sir

Martin Burgs tube - for the accomodation, comfy and friendly

Sean, Jim, Alex - letting me drive their charges.

touching cloth
16-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Nice write up Gary, sorry I never tracked you down and sorry you never got that passenger lap with Fubar (mind it was his Birthday on the Saturday night so probably for the best that he decided against driving on the Sunday). Next time we are going to make sure we have a weekday built in for the Ring as it was just so busy on the Sunday... won't be this year so roll on 2009.

Floyd
16-10-2008, 07:12 PM
Juanjio arrives naked and happy from the bikers parking lot :smack:
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Nige
16-10-2008, 07:14 PM
Sounds like you all had a good time :thumb:

You are braver than me ! I wouldn`t dare drive someone elses car on the ring :blink:

Chris D
16-10-2008, 07:24 PM
Good read Gary.

I'm looking forward to next year when (hopefully) i will be frequenting nurburg a lot more than i had intended on doing so this year.

Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by touching cloth@Oct 16 2008, 08:11 PM
Nice write up Gary, sorry I never tracked you down and sorry you never got that passenger lap with Fubar (mind it was his Birthday on the Saturday night so probably for the best that he decided against driving on the Sunday). Next time we are going to make sure we have a weekday built in for the Ring as it was just so busy on the Sunday... won't be this year so roll on 2009.
Saw the yellow Cerbera once for about 2 seconds other than that no sign all weekend :lol: :lol:

No problem at all :thumb:

Floyd
16-10-2008, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Nige@Oct 16 2008, 08:14 PM
Sounds like you all had a good time :thumb:

You are braver than me ! I wouldn`t dare drive someone elses car on the ring :blink:
I have driven other people's cars and once you get past T13 you forget about the risks :blink: Jim offered a drive of his car to me but I didn't manage to catch up with him to get it. Probably just as well :whistle: I did have a quick drive on the road though :thumb:

crossie
16-10-2008, 07:58 PM
any chance you can sort your photos out gary

all I see is red squares for sunday and monday!

rest is really good!

Jorg
16-10-2008, 08:04 PM
great report with some interesting pictures :whistle:

Russ_F
16-10-2008, 08:06 PM
Good report Gary, The pic of weeman is priceless :lol: :lol:

D16vGTi
16-10-2008, 08:11 PM
Cracking write up :thumb:

and as for driving the R8 round....lucky lucky man! :thumb:

Weeman
16-10-2008, 08:12 PM
pmsl at the chip on the shoulder, How fecking long was that on there before I noticed LOL

I wont write one as its pretty similar to that with the exception of my reversing skills :lol:

Great write up shag

Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by crossie@Oct 16 2008, 08:58 PM
any chance you can sort your photos out gary

all I see is red squares for sunday and monday!

rest is really good!
No idea what the problem is, they are fine for me and everyone else I think :fish:

Uncle Benz
16-10-2008, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn+Oct 16 2008, 08:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Gary Kinghorn @ Oct 16 2008, 08:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-crossie@Oct 16 2008, 08:58 PM
any chance you can sort your photos out gary

all I see is red squares for sunday and monday&#33;

rest is really good&#33;
No idea what the problem is, they are fine for me and everyone else I think :fish: [/b][/quote]
You might have your Floyd filter switched on...

Shak
16-10-2008, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Oct 16 2008, 06:40 PM
I thought it was only Shak who threw up :fish:
I was having an off-day. It happens to the best of us. :whistle:

Floyd
16-10-2008, 08:51 PM
Early start for Simon and I from the centre of England
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Some scram at the Chunnel
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Who is on the telephone?
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Where are they going, I wonder?
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Friends reflect on what is to happen
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If he&#39;s there, then who is...
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Precious cargo
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Floyd
16-10-2008, 08:57 PM
Arrival after racing the R8 (incidentally the fuel consumption on the R8 reduces when it slipstreams the Skoda by 3 mpg&#33;)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/FloydM/Ring%2008/IMG_3746.jpg
That night...
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No, not more beer for Andy :o
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A sober look ;)
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Getting wierd
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More wierd
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Back to normal
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Gary Kinghorn
16-10-2008, 08:59 PM
:thumb:

Weeman
16-10-2008, 09:01 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That pic of you all on the train is fantastic :thumb:

Shak
16-10-2008, 09:04 PM
I thought Gary took a photo of Dave with "Arsehole" graffiteed above his head. The wall of the PK just behind him had it&#33; :lol: :lol:

Weeman
16-10-2008, 09:05 PM
:lol: :lol:

Floyd
16-10-2008, 09:05 PM
Look what I&#39;ve gone and done
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Finger pointing - he must have known what was to come :shame:
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No title required
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Just drop some coins in the hat and move on ;)
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A long night
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Floyd
16-10-2008, 09:09 PM
The usual busy carpark
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Eh&#33;?
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This is how we do it
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Vroom vroom
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Phwoar
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Max Power
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From the land of the rising sun ;)
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Weeman
16-10-2008, 09:11 PM
pmsl at the pic of chris with the icecream:lol: :lol:

Floyd
16-10-2008, 09:14 PM
The ultimate queue of cars :whistle:
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A master class in sticker application
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PK
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Not content with getting caught once, it happens again :pokefun:
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Keep you hands and arms inside the vehicle, remain seated, hold on tight
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Better in the flesh
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A last shot of the tarmac river
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Simon
16-10-2008, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Shak@Oct 16 2008, 10:04 PM
I thought Gary took a photo of Dave with "Arsehole" graffiteed above his head. The wall of the PK just behind him had it&#33; :lol: :lol:
lol :lol: . So did I :D. Floyd has the shot :whistle:

Excellent weekend and a good report, Gary :thumb:. Been a long time getting you back there but it was well worth it B)

Shak
16-10-2008, 10:40 PM
Even this guy was quicker than Fluff: :whistle: :lol:

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Gary Kinghorn
17-10-2008, 06:09 AM
Laughing at the picture of me sleeping on the floor fully clothed :lol:

lizard
17-10-2008, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Oct 16 2008, 05:11 PM
Posted in here to ensure people see it, will move it in a few days.



???

WTF

Why has this report got special treatment then??

The power has gone to your head horned one&#33;

:whistle:


*cough* clique *cough* ahem

:P

Gary Kinghorn
17-10-2008, 07:06 AM
Yep :lol: :lol:

Floyd
17-10-2008, 07:13 AM
Forgive him, oh mighty one, for he does not understand :whistle:

Gary Kinghorn
17-10-2008, 07:14 AM
El presedente told me to do it :thumb:

nimpy
17-10-2008, 07:16 AM
great write up, crackin pics :thumb:

findlay
17-10-2008, 12:11 PM
Great pictures, I&#39;m particularly impressed that Gary managed to find PJs that matched the bedsheets. THAT&#39;S dedication to your appearance. :loser:

:thumb:

Floyd
17-10-2008, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by findlay@Oct 17 2008, 01:11 PM
Great pictures, I&#39;m particularly impressed that Gary managed to find PJs that matched the bedsheets. THAT&#39;S dedication to your appearance. :loser:

:thumb:
They were universal clothes :whistle:

Juanjo
17-10-2008, 12:49 PM
Now I&#39;m looking forward to go to th ring again...

may be in the spring... :(

Weeman
17-10-2008, 12:53 PM
Was great to see you and rache again juan :wave:

Tom
17-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Floyd@Oct 16 2008, 10:09 PM
Phwoar
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INDEED... just look how sexy that new scirocco is in the background&#33;

jon_r
17-10-2008, 02:07 PM
Certainly was a great weekend. Not sure I can wait until next year, so will be back before Chrimbo&#33;

rossm
17-10-2008, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by jon_r@Oct 17 2008, 03:07 PM
Certainly was a great weekend. Not sure I can wait until next year, so will be back before Chrimbo&#33;
Me too, going over for the end of season party, should be a right old piss up :whistle:

Jorg
17-10-2008, 03:39 PM
good to hear ross :thumb:

for all the other 7th nov. season-end paty in adenau&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :drink:

http://z8.invisionfree.com/Northloop/index...showtopic=13017 (http://z8.invisionfree.com/Northloop/index.php?showtopic=13017)

see you then,
jorg

p.s. i have a real&#33; live-band :thumb:

Pedro
17-10-2008, 05:30 PM
Gary, if you´re going to keep calling someone Presidente, it´s spelled Presidente :lol:

Gary Kinghorn
17-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Pedro@Oct 17 2008, 06:30 PM
Gary, if you´re going to keep calling someone Presidente, it´s spelled Presidente :lol:
:wave:

mantaman
17-10-2008, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Pedro@Oct 17 2008, 05:30 PM
Gary, if you´re going to keep calling someone Presidente, it´s spelled Presidente :lol:
Gary can spell anything how he wants, he is the pissheadient

Floyd
17-10-2008, 07:35 PM
Ethro, I did take a photo of the Scirrocco as well and it was V. B)

alexf2003
17-10-2008, 09:41 PM
Whos is the Skoda?

Gary Kinghorn
18-10-2008, 07:23 AM
That&#39;s Floyd&#39;s beast

Jim Cameron
18-10-2008, 07:47 AM
I&#39;ve lots of stuff to add / correct on this thread... but I&#39;ll have to wait until I&#39;m back in the country.

In the meantime...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/IMG_5372.jpg

:thumb:

Weeman
18-10-2008, 09:07 AM
pmsl that is a fecking great picture :lol:

Gary Kinghorn
18-10-2008, 09:35 AM
Great picture winkle :thumb:

Dave G
18-10-2008, 12:04 PM
Great pic, Top Gear styleee&#33;

Nige
18-10-2008, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by lizard+Oct 17 2008, 08:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lizard @ Oct 17 2008, 08:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gary Kinghorn@Oct 16 2008, 05:11 PM
Posted in here to ensure people see it, will move it in a few days.



???

WTF

Why has this report got special treatment then??

The power has gone to your head horned one&#33;

:whistle:


*cough* clique *cough* ahem

:P [/b][/quote]
Didn`t you know? Gary is `special`, its only the rest of us who put reports in the report section :whistle:

GVK
18-10-2008, 04:37 PM
Cool pic &#33; :D

JudeM
18-10-2008, 04:52 PM
Brilliant read :thumb:

Very jealous about the R8 and I love it in white :wub:

Jude

Hippychick
18-10-2008, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Jim Cameron@Oct 18 2008, 08:47 AM


http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/IMG_5372.jpg


Jim seems to be wearing Simon&#39;s shirt :whistle:

Simon
18-10-2008, 06:06 PM
:lol: Red is so the year before last, Helen :P

Our chauffeur looks a little serious :D

Great picture, a credit to the photographer :whistle:

Jim Cameron
18-10-2008, 07:05 PM
:nono: Holding the camera doesn&#39;t make you the....

oh, never mind... :lol:

Just for Helen:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/R8crop.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/_MG_5211.jpg
In focus shots cost extra, evidently...

And the R8 about to be monstered on the Autobahn:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/IMG_5222.jpg

Gary wasted no time offering Shaun all sorts of things in order to &#39;get a ride&#39;

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/IMG_5185.jpg

I love this pic...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/IMG_5349.jpg

Went out with Bren to take some serious photos

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/BrenandJim-1.jpg

This was a very quick lap indeed.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/IMG_5328.jpg

We went sooooo fast I took my helmet off coming down the pitlane to allow me to swear better

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/IMG_5340.jpg

GVK
18-10-2008, 07:35 PM
Awesome pics Jim&#33; :D

Hippychick
18-10-2008, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Jim Cameron@Oct 18 2008, 08:05 PM



Just for Helen:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/R8crop.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z305/SpinInstructor/_MG_5211.jpg

Ubba ubba :wub: :wub: :wub: (that&#39;s for the car Jim, not you&#33; :P )

Gary Kinghorn
18-10-2008, 08:40 PM
Great pics Jim, even though I took a couple of them :thumb:

Gary Kinghorn
18-10-2008, 08:48 PM
Welcome to the forum Delly - multi coloured mini lady just joined up :thumb:

Now we need to know what engine is in the van please :thumb:

Floyd
18-10-2008, 08:54 PM
I have some more pictures of Delly :thumb:

Great picture of the &#39;Ringskoda 4&#39; B)

alexf2003
18-10-2008, 09:29 PM
A skoda AND a Scooby?

Are you asking for banter? LOL

Floyd
18-10-2008, 09:36 PM
I have driven almost as many miles in the Skoda in 2 years as I have driven in the Subaru in 8 years :whistle: And why not? ;)

Russ_F
18-10-2008, 10:01 PM
PMSL @ the pic of me and Simon :lol: :lol:

anarky
19-10-2008, 10:44 AM
Wow that silver RSR thing looks berlistic&#33; :o
I&#39;d love to see some in car or in rocket footage.

Nice pics looks like you guys had a great time :thumb:

Jim Cameron
19-10-2008, 10:51 AM
I&#39;ve got some bullet camera footage from some of the punter&#39;s laps earlier in the day, I&#39;ll get round to posting some up :thumb:

Craig
19-10-2008, 12:06 PM
Gary - Van is my mate Pauls, its just a 200bhp Sportmotive DIESEL Astra Van... goes well doesnt it&#33;&#33; :D

Gary Kinghorn
19-10-2008, 12:10 PM
Saw him a couple of times in my rear view when I was driving the 205 last weekend :thumb:

Looked to be going well

Weeman
19-10-2008, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Oct 18 2008, 10:48 PM
Welcome to the forum Delly - multi coloured mini lady just joined up :thumb:

Now we need to know what engine is in the van please :thumb:
She was cute too, I passed her Monday, and had to have a wee check of the mirror afterwards LOL :lol:

Craig
19-10-2008, 12:51 PM
Anyone spotted this yet??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usf4CGqXRo8

I think they&#39;ve clocked Lauren, seems she made quiet an impact that weekend.

Weeman
19-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Pmsl :lol:

Atomizer_PD
19-10-2008, 02:28 PM
Yes the van is mine , apologoies once again for blocking the ring skoda in , hard to find a park during a closure but yes I was in the way , sorry.

Good weekend had by all i think :thumb:

Simon
19-10-2008, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Craig&#33;@Oct 19 2008, 01:51 PM
Anyone spotted this yet??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usf4CGqXRo8

I think they&#39;ve clocked Lauren, seems she made quiet an impact that weekend.
lol. Her facebook friends will be so envious :lol: :whistle:

Gary Kinghorn
19-10-2008, 03:42 PM
PMSL at the video :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the forum silver van man :thumb: Nice stable you have there reading your sig :thumb:

Jim Cameron
19-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 03:28 PM
Yes the van is mine , apologoies once again for blocking the ring skoda in , hard to find a park during a closure but yes I was in the way , sorry.

Good weekend had by all i think :thumb:
No worries. Welcome :thumb:

Atomizer_PD
19-10-2008, 04:09 PM
Thanks fellas , see you all in 09 i guess :(

anarky
19-10-2008, 05:02 PM
You chaps pop up in this vid @ 6.21
Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao-Lxodsd5I) :thumb:

Gary Kinghorn
19-10-2008, 06:13 PM
Correct :thumb:

Darren Langeveld
19-10-2008, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 03:28 PM
Yes the van is mine , apologoies once again for blocking the ring skoda in , hard to find a park during a closure but yes I was in the way , sorry.

Good weekend had by all i think :thumb:
Hi Paul :wave:

Atomizer_PD
19-10-2008, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Herr Teflon+Oct 19 2008, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Herr Teflon @ Oct 19 2008, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 03:28 PM
Yes the van is mine , apologoies once again for blocking the ring skoda in , hard to find a park during a closure but yes I was in the way , sorry.

Good weekend had by all i think :thumb:
Hi Paul :wave: [/b][/quote]
Mr Teflon himself&#33;

Hope all is good at your end Darren&#33;

Paul

Shak
19-10-2008, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 03:28 PM
Yes the van is mine , apologoies once again for blocking the ring skoda in , hard to find a park during a closure but yes I was in the way , sorry.

Good weekend had by all i think :thumb:
Welcome, aboard&#33; This would be you, then&#33; B)

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_6256.jpg

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_6257.jpg

Floyd
19-10-2008, 08:40 PM
I quite like the look of the van B) :thumb:

Atomizer_PD
19-10-2008, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Shak+Oct 19 2008, 07:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shak @ Oct 19 2008, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 03:28 PM
Yes the van is mine , apologoies once again for blocking the ring skoda in , hard to find a park during a closure but yes I was in the way , sorry.

Good weekend had by all i think :thumb:
Welcome, aboard&#33; This would be you, then&#33; B)

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_6256.jpg

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_6257.jpg [/b][/quote]
Thanks for them Shak , are you off evotechnik by any chance too?

Cheers Floyd , just something a little bit different and a great tool to learn in

Shak
19-10-2008, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks for them Shak , are you off evotechnik by any chance too?

Haha yeah who are you on there? B)

Atomizer_PD
19-10-2008, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Shak+Oct 19 2008, 08:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shak @ Oct 19 2008, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks for them Shak , are you off evotechnik by any chance too?

Haha yeah who are you on there? B) [/b][/quote]
Used to post a lot a year or so ago , PAUL///M3 i think&#33;

Shak
19-10-2008, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD+Oct 19 2008, 10:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Atomizer_PD @ Oct 19 2008, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Shak@Oct 19 2008, 08:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks for them Shak , are you off evotechnik by any chance too?

Haha yeah who are you on there? B)
Used to post a lot a year or so ago , PAUL///M3 i think&#33; [/b][/quote]
Ah we&#39;ve met before&#33; You took Peppernick for a lap in your GT3 RS&#33; :D

I see you&#39;ve upgraded, since&#33; :thumb:

Atomizer_PD
19-10-2008, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Shak+Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shak @ Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Shak@Oct 19 2008, 08:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks for them Shak , are you off evotechnik by any chance too?

Haha yeah who are you on there? B)
Used to post a lot a year or so ago , PAUL///M3 i think&#33;
Ah we&#39;ve met before&#33; You took Peppernick for a lap in your GT3 RS&#33; :D

I see you&#39;ve upgraded, since&#33; :thumb: [/b][/quote]
Small world&#33; Yes I did , remember well , I sure have although only done the one trip in that this year , wanted something I could learn in and reduce the risk as the TF days just seem to be getting busier&#33;

Paul

Shak
19-10-2008, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD+Oct 19 2008, 10:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Atomizer_PD @ Oct 19 2008, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Shak@Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Shak@Oct 19 2008, 08:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks for them Shak , are you off evotechnik by any chance too?

Haha yeah who are you on there? B)
Used to post a lot a year or so ago , PAUL///M3 i think&#33;
Ah we&#39;ve met before&#33; You took Peppernick for a lap in your GT3 RS&#33; :D

I see you&#39;ve upgraded, since&#33; :thumb:
Small world&#33; Yes I did , remember well , I sure have although only done the one trip in that this year , wanted something I could learn in and reduce the risk as the TF days just seem to be getting busier&#33;

Paul [/b][/quote]
Learn?? I remember you saying you used to 25-30 laps a day in the GT3&#33; :o :thumb:

Atomizer_PD
20-10-2008, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Shak+Oct 19 2008, 09:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shak @ Oct 19 2008, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by Shak@Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Shak@Oct 19 2008, 08:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Atomizer_PD@Oct 19 2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks for them Shak , are you off evotechnik by any chance too?

Haha yeah who are you on there? B)
Used to post a lot a year or so ago , PAUL///M3 i think&#33;
Ah we&#39;ve met before&#33; You took Peppernick for a lap in your GT3 RS&#33; :D

I see you&#39;ve upgraded, since&#33; :thumb:
Small world&#33; Yes I did , remember well , I sure have although only done the one trip in that this year , wanted something I could learn in and reduce the risk as the TF days just seem to be getting busier&#33;

Paul
Learn?? I remember you saying you used to 25-30 laps a day in the GT3&#33; :o :thumb: [/b][/quote]
Sorry , lets say "master"? I know it 100% , but im sure I will never master It , GT3 was just an awesome piece of kit but just too much risk these days with oil spills etc :(

Looking forward to 2009 but will definatley invest in a year pass

Paul

Gary Kinghorn
20-10-2008, 07:55 AM
How do you young people manage to have such awesome garages full of cars, that&#39;s what I want to know :fish:

Jealous - Me - You bet I am :thumb:

Weeman
20-10-2008, 08:02 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

El padroni

http://www.nndb.com/people/442/000109115/pablo-escobar.jpg

Gary Kinghorn
20-10-2008, 08:03 AM
Can&#39;t quite see that Weeman, do you have a larger version?

Weeman
20-10-2008, 08:04 AM
hence the edit pmsl

Shak
20-10-2008, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Oct 20 2008, 08:55 AM
How do you young people manage to have such awesome garages full of cars, that&#39;s what I want to know :fish:

Jealous - Me - You bet I am :thumb:
I&#39;m sure Paul is a year younger than me&#33; :whistle:

Delly
22-10-2008, 11:14 AM
Hello Everyone&#33;

Didnt realise i was spotting going on the Eurotunnel&#33;&#33;

It was only my 2nd Ring trip so i hope i didnt get in anyones way, Sorry if i did&#33;&#33; Thanks for the comments too&#33; ha ha

Delly&#33;
Mini Cooper S B)

Shak
22-10-2008, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Delly@Oct 22 2008, 12:14 PM
Hello Everyone&#33;

Didnt realise i was spotting going on the Eurotunnel&#33;&#33;

It was only my 2nd Ring trip so i hope i didnt get in anyones way, Sorry if i did&#33;&#33; Thanks for the comments too&#33; ha ha

Delly&#33;
Mini Cooper S B)
Lol I&#39;d say you were noticed&#33; :lol:

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_5861.jpg

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_5863.jpg

Nige
22-10-2008, 11:34 AM
That mini was there in August too, high quality paint job, not to my taste, but very well done.

Weeman
22-10-2008, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Shak+Oct 22 2008, 01:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shak @ Oct 22 2008, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Delly@Oct 22 2008, 12:14 PM
Hello Everyone&#33;

Didnt realise i was spotting going on the Eurotunnel&#33;&#33;

It was only my 2nd Ring trip so i hope i didnt get in anyones way, Sorry if i did&#33;&#33; Thanks for the comments too&#33; ha ha

Delly&#33;
Mini Cooper S B)
Lol I&#39;d say you were noticed&#33; :lol:

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_5861.jpg

http://nurburgring.5h4k.co.uk/2008/oct/cars13/images/DSC_5863.jpg [/b][/quote]
Noticed, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, cant remember seeing her or the car all weekend&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hi

Shak
22-10-2008, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Weeman@Oct 22 2008, 12:47 PM

Noticed, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, cant remember seeing her or the car all weekend&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hi
Doesn&#39;t seem to be much evidence of you being there, either. At least not from my collection&#33; :whistle: :lol:

Weeman
22-10-2008, 12:20 PM
You sir, are a knob&#33; :lol:

Simon
22-10-2008, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Shak+Oct 22 2008, 01:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shak @ Oct 22 2008, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Weeman@Oct 22 2008, 12:47 PM

Noticed, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, cant remember seeing her or the car all weekend&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hi
Doesn&#39;t seem to be much evidence of you being there, either. At least not from my collection&#33; :whistle: :lol: [/b][/quote]
:lol:

Gary Kinghorn
22-10-2008, 01:23 PM
An interesting car the mini. Certainly a paint job that stood out. Not to my taste, but hey it takes all sorts.

Welcome to the forum all the same, hope you settle in and join in with the banter :thumb:

Delly
22-10-2008, 05:00 PM
Thanks Guys,

Dont worry the mini isnt always to my taste some days either but it is different. Been a typical woman i couldnt pick one colour so i went for them all&#33;&#33;

Yer i was there in August too, just cant wait to go back now&#33;&#33; Think i might need a new car though, the mini sticks to the track but i need something faster.

Floyd
22-10-2008, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Delly@Oct 22 2008, 06:00 PM
Thanks Guys,

Dont worry the mini isnt always to my taste some days either but it is different. Been a typical woman i couldnt pick one colour so i went for them all&#33;&#33;

Yer i was there in August too, just cant wait to go back now&#33;&#33; Think i might need a new car though, the mini sticks to the track but i need something faster.
I thought it looked well done B)

Atomizer_PD
22-10-2008, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Delly@Oct 22 2008, 05:00 PM
Thanks Guys,

Dont worry the mini isnt always to my taste some days either but it is different. Been a typical woman i couldnt pick one colour so i went for them all&#33;&#33;

Yer i was there in August too, just cant wait to go back now&#33;&#33; Think i might need a new car though, the mini sticks to the track but i need something faster.
Have we met before?

May i reccomend a 1.9CDti Astra Sportive SE Van , very nice

Delly
22-10-2008, 06:54 PM
Ummmmm... somehow i believe we have met&#33;&#33;&#33; ha ha

And you know my views on your van, however that one round the ring is the fastest lap ive ever experienced round there&#33;&#33;

Weeman
22-10-2008, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD+Oct 22 2008, 08:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Atomizer_PD @ Oct 22 2008, 08:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Delly@Oct 22 2008, 05:00 PM
Thanks Guys,

Dont worry the mini isnt always to my taste some days either but it is different. Been a typical woman i couldnt pick one colour so i went for them all&#33;&#33;

Yer i was there in August too, just cant wait to go back now&#33;&#33; Think i might need a new car though, the mini sticks to the track but i need something faster.
Have we met before?

May i reccomend a 1.9CDti Astra Sportive SE Van , very nice [/b][/quote]
"if this vans a rocking dont come a knocking" :lol:

Floyd
22-10-2008, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Weeman+Oct 22 2008, 08:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Weeman @ Oct 22 2008, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Atomizer_PD@Oct 22 2008, 08:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Delly@Oct 22 2008, 05:00 PM
Thanks Guys,

Dont worry the mini isnt always to my taste some days either but it is different. Been a typical woman i couldnt pick one colour so i went for them all&#33;&#33;

Yer i was there in August too, just cant wait to go back now&#33;&#33; Think i might need a new car though, the mini sticks to the track but i need something faster.
Have we met before?

May i reccomend a 1.9CDti Astra Sportive SE Van , very nice
"if this vans a rocking dont come a knocking" :lol: [/b][/quote]
Ooh baby :D

Gary Kinghorn
23-10-2008, 09:03 PM
Van looked to go really well. Not often discussed on here but what sort of BTG does it do out of interest?

Atomizer_PD
23-10-2008, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Oct 23 2008, 09:03 PM
Van looked to go really well. Not often discussed on here but what sort of BTG does it do out of interest?
Thanks Gary , to be fair I dont know , It was just too busy to put one together. My last one did a 9.20 on a totally clear lap but with barriers near the f1 entrance due to the bikes being on there.

Hoping this will be well into the 8&#39;s then

Paul

Floyd
23-10-2008, 09:45 PM
I should have asked for a pax lap then. I was worried that you&#39;d stop off at Adenau for a bacon sarny and the Sun newspaper though ;)

Craig
23-10-2008, 11:34 PM
Easy 8:XX&#39;s Paul, I was watching the clock and we passed the gantry sub-9:00 on that flying lap we had, you know the one before all the brake and tyre fade, haha.

Gary Kinghorn
24-10-2008, 06:56 AM
As I say, it looked to be going well :thumb:

Floyd
24-10-2008, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Gary Kinghorn@Oct 24 2008, 07:56 AM
As I say, it looked to be going well :thumb:
You&#39;ve already said that&#33; ;)

Atomizer_PD
24-10-2008, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Craig&#33;@Oct 23 2008, 11:34 PM
Easy 8:XX&#39;s Paul, I was watching the clock and we passed the gantry sub-9:00 on that flying lap we had, you know the one before all the brake and tyre fade, haha.
Thanks Craig , very interesting that & quite pleased to be honest.

Literally just got my grubby mits on some 343mm 4-Pot Alcons with 200 miles use&#33;

So thats it , im ready for 09

Anyone is welcome for a pax , be aware I have not done half as many laps as some of you boys mind&#33; I just try to be as smooth & as fast as possible.

To give and idea of general speed she hits 130 on the nose (speedo) befroe SchwedenKreuz (spelling&#33;?)

Paul

jon_r
24-10-2008, 02:06 PM
Ah, the van passed me on the sunday coming towards SX. Sadly the Clio was already approaching the limiter in top, so it&#39;d already managed V max at that stage&#33; :lol: